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The Model Y is prettier and performs better, not to mention the charging infrastructure in place is a huge bonus. For Renault to overcome all of that, bloody well done.

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[-] sanpo@sopuli.xyz 9 points 2 weeks ago

charging infrastructure in place

What infrastructure? Pretty sure Tesla in EU is using a standard plug, same as any other EV.

Not to mention Tesla's quality is well known at this point.

[-] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Super chargers are still a draw.

Edit because apparently people hate honesty now.

##Superchargers vs. Average Car Chargers in Europe Power Output

  • Superchargers: Typically offer high power output, ranging from 150kW to 250kW (DC).
  • Average Car Chargers: Usually offer lower power output, typically between 3kW to 22kW (AC). Charging Speed
  • Superchargers: Significantly faster, capable of adding significant range in a short amount of time.
  • Average Car Chargers: Slower, suitable for overnight or long-duration charging.

#Location

  • Superchargers: Strategically located at motorway service stations and other high-traffic areas.
  • Average Car Chargers: Found in various locations, including homes, workplaces, public car parks, and some retail locations.

#Cost

  • Superchargers: Generally more expensive per kWh, but faster charging can offset this.
  • Average Car Chargers: Typically cheaper per kWh, but slower charging. Connector Type
  • Superchargers: Proprietary Tesla connector.
  • Average Car Chargers: Primarily use the Type 2 connector.

#Network

  • Superchargers: Part of the Tesla Supercharger Network, exclusive to Tesla vehicles.
  • Average Car Chargers: Part of various networks operated by different providers, offering broader compatibility. In summary, Superchargers are designed for long-distance travel, offering rapid charging capabilities, while average car chargers are more suitable for daily commuting and overnight charging. The choice between the two depends on specific needs and driving habits. Note: While Tesla has been expanding its Supercharger network and opening it up to other EV manufacturers in some regions, the core network remains proprietary to Tesla.

Elon is still a dickhead, but he can be a dickhead and have a certain level of success behind him.

[-] Sentau@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Dude why is chat gpt or whatever llm you are using comparing the supercharger DC fast charger to AC charging solutions, it makes no sense.

The point is that since superchargers in Europe use the same CCS connectors as others, non tesla EVs can use them as well. It is not a plus point for Teslas

[-] sanpo@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 weeks ago

In what way? I've literally never seen a Tesla charger where I live, but there's a ton of generic ones.

[-] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 2 points 2 weeks ago
[-] sanpo@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 weeks ago
[-] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 3 points 2 weeks ago
[-] sanpo@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, it does. Your map shows maybe a few chargers per city at most, and basically nothing in the East.

Meanwhile generics are now on almost every supermarket parking and petrol station in any bigger city.

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