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[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 88 points 1 month ago

As a swiftie, I can say you're right. However, there's also no such thing as a purely good or purely bad person, and liking a billionaire does not make someone good or bad. People, it turns out, are complex.

I can love Taylor's music while also criticizing her for her excessive personal jet use and massive pollution problem.

I think if we stop making it a binary decision that more people will start opening up about changes need to make. In Taylor's case, most Swifties would never dare say anything negative about her for fear of others in the fandom thinking they aren't true fans, and vis versa, I'm sure people here will read this as I must support billionaires because I like her music. No, complex multifaceted opinions are valid.

I think we should abolish ICE vehicles. It doesn't mean I think I need to yell at family members who pull up in their 02 Camry because they can't afford to upgrade.

[-] baldingpudenda@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

I recently had this conversation with my sister who's been a huge swiftie for years. Her reaction:

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 5 points 1 month ago

u and ur sister hella based 🙌

[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 month ago

Disagree here. I'd argue being good and being a billionaire are mutually exclusive. You can be good before you are a billionaire (rare) but it's not possible once you enter that class.

[-] Supernova1051@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago

100% agree.

For anyone who may disagree, consider thinking of excess wealth as excess food.

If you were in a stadium full of people that represent all of humanity, and you have more food than you could ever even eat in multiple lifetimes are you not an evil person for not sharing with those who are literally starving to death?

These are people with the amount of wealth who could easily subsidize paying a team of people to plan out how to appropriate give away most of their wealth so they don't have "excess food" by the time they die - and not have it impact their day to day lifestyle. Instead they let others starve.

[-] prole 3 points 1 month ago

These are people with the amount of wealth who could easily subsidize paying a team of people to plan out how to appropriate give away most of their wealth so they don’t have “excess food” by the time they die - and not have it impact their day to day lifestyle. Instead they let others starve.

Exactly. If we only had one or two billionaires do what they do in the Maya Rudolph show "Loot," we could probably provide housing for every homeless person in America.

[-] adarza@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago

someone of her unique status cannot fly scheduled commercial flights without causing significant disruptions everywhere she travels to and from.

[-] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

Pfff, yeah, sure. In my country the ex-president was stupidly popular, like 80% approval popular and 99% of the people knew him. He still traveled, always, in commercial flights, economic class, basically each weekend. Taylor Swift just doesn't wanna deal with normies.

[-] sit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago

Shits a cult aye

[-] index@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

and liking a billionaire does not make someone good or bad.

Buddy we all make mistakes. Liking a billionaire is simply not good don't try to hide yourself behind an excuse. The world has much better artists and music to offer.

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 2 points 1 month ago

So what as soon as a musician or artist hits a big enough line in the sand we all have to stop liking their music?

[-] index@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Musicians and artists are people who focus on music and art. Billionares are businessmen who focus on making money. As many others are highlighting in the thread a billion dollars is a ridiculous amount of money that you don't simply hit, you have to seek profits above everything else and work your way up there.

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 2 points 1 month ago

I agree, but you said I need to stop listening to her. I disagree with that. I can still listen to her music and enjoy that while also at the very same time think that she is a billionaire who should be giving most of her wealth away.

[-] index@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

I didn't say you need to stop listening to her. I encouraged you to listen to the much better artists and music that the world has to offer.

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 2 points 1 month ago

That goes into opinion. I personally really like her music, I listen to a lot of others too, but I'm not going to stop listening to my favorite.

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 2 points 1 month ago

Hi fellow Swiftie! Thanks for sharing your thoughts 💃

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 4 points 1 month ago

Hello! If you aren't aware we do have a community over at !taylorswift@poptalk.scrubbles.tech if you'd like to join! Always happy to have more!

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