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[-] davel@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 week ago

This is two questions in one. Cowbee is addressing who is and isn’t bourgeois.

As to who lives and who dies: nobody has to die, but history has proven that the capitalist class won’t relinquish power peacefully. They will utilize state violence to retain control of the state and to protect their private property.

[-] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

USA is pretty much the most capitalist country in the world so that's a lot of people that might die. But again, who gets to decide who will die (or be rehabilitated)? Cowbee?

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 week ago
[-] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

Yes, but.... It's seems most people WANT to live in a capitalist system. It's not my first choice either, but IMO shooting CEOs will just bring more repression and give an authoritarian government a sens of legitimacy,

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 week ago

IMO shooting CEOs will just bring more repression and give an authoritarian government a sens of legitimacy

I agree. That’s what I said on Wednesday: https://lemmy.ml/post/23216334/15339156

<davel> As cathartic as it may be, assassinating CEOs will do nothing but embiggen the police state.

<xxxxx> So centrist of you.

<davel> This is not coming from a centrist position: https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/Adventurism

[-] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

So we agree on that. It's my main point, I'm not defending CEOs, I'm just not going to cheer for some random street execution. The fact that the video of this murder is being shared and celebrate that much really makes me inconfortable. Seems to me like a very american solution to a very american problem. I wouldnt have thought people here would be that much pro-violence. People can ball me a "lib" or a centrist as much as they want, I'm not celebrating arbitrary murder nor watching that video.

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago

I think you’re reading more bloodlust in this outpouring of catharsis & outrage than is actually there. People are expressing righteous anger, not murderous intent.

[-] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

Maybe. I hope so.

[-] comfy@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 week ago

Yes. All hail Cowbee.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

This is why an actual democracy - not an oligarchy masquerading as one - would reduce overall violence.

This dude saw a bunch of rich people unilaterally deciding who would die, and he did the same.

[-] PunnyName@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Think of it this way: Systems vs Demographics

We as a society should never condone a system (government/CEOs/billionaires) killing a demographic (individual or group), like the death penalty. Because the system already has greater power and control.

However, the demographic should be able to kill or dismantle systems, especially when they feel threatened by those with power.

So "the people" can take the lives of the rich into their hands, but the rich can't take the lives of "the people" into their hands. Ideally.

Which is why it's okay to be pro assassination of a CEO, but not pro death penalty of a serial killer. Government (system) sanctioned murder (of a demographic) should never be okay.

[-] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

Which is why it’s okay to be pro assassination of a CEO,

So would you kill one? Like, if it's okay, and apparently the right thing too do, why don't people do it more?

[-] PunnyName@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I'm poor, I can barely afford to take care of myself, let alone afford a gun and the necessary steps to disappear after.

[-] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

What if you had the money and a great plan, would you pull the trigger?

[-] PunnyName@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I condone what happened. And I hope it continues.

[-] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

I'll take that as a yes. I mean, the rest of the world manages to give free health care to citizens without having to shoot each other but I guess americans have american solutions to their american problems...

[-] PunnyName@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Punching up is fine. It's like comedy.

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