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[-] Doom@ttrpg.network 6 points 10 months ago

You are extremely twisted up.

Liberalism is not right wing, and what you're talking about is neoliberalism. Which is different.

[-] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago

Overton window around here is so far right you think you're the one correcting him... Fuck damn.

Compared to monarchy/fascism, liberalism is farther towards the center but it does not often cross that line.

[-] Doom@ttrpg.network 2 points 10 months ago

Hahaha imagine being this arrogant and immediately shooting yourself in the foot.

No Liberalism is left leaning. It is a center ideology 100% but liberalism is left leaning. The concept of liberalism literally became in existence opposite of a monarchy right wing style, placing it to the left.

Now since then the term liberalism has been abused especially in the US but you live in a world that was ruled by kings and still is in many ways. But you think globally that means liberals are right leaning?? Outside of your mind.

[-] sudo@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago

In our day and age liberalism is center right. It was left wing back in Napoleonic times. But its post-cold war now. Capitalism and thoroughly replaced feudalism.

[-] Doom@ttrpg.network 2 points 10 months ago

cause you're talking about three different kinds of liberalism thinking they're the same

[-] sudo@programming.dev 1 points 10 months ago

Different evolutions of the same ideological movement representing the same socioeconomic class. How is this hard to understand? All US presidents have been liberals. Different types of liberals exist but they are still liberals.

[-] Doom@ttrpg.network 1 points 10 months ago

Apparently for you it is. Go take a single political science class and tell your teacher Liberalism is right wing ideology or right leaning they're gonna ask you to prove it and you'll say "well fiscally" and they're gonna laugh at you

[-] sudo@programming.dev 1 points 10 months ago

This is the academic and historical definition of liberalism that I'm using. Your US civics teacher gave you the brain damage to think liberalism is the opposite of conservatism and not just a clever slander of progressives.

[-] Doom@ttrpg.network 1 points 10 months ago

No it is not. You tried to say in "Napoleonic times" it WAS left and moved right.

That is not how ideologies work and that is not how the political spectrum works either. Literally google political spectrum I would bet my testicles enough of them exist that literally label the left side "Liberal"

And no my polisci professor did not say it is the opposite of conservatism especially because it predates such a thing. In fact conservatism is considered a reactionary political stance to liberalism. Instead he made it clear before Liberalism there was really only traditionalism and people discussing concepts like liberty and freedom and such, there wasn't anything to compare it to. He also made it clear that defining these and stances about these politics is extremely difficult for example people still dunno if Jefferson agreed or disagreed with Locke because of the life, liberty and pursuit of happiness line.

But what he did make absolutely clear was the political spectrum was not very well made and that liberalism is left wing you dope

[-] inv3r510n@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

No. You’re completely wrong. Liberalism is a right wing ideology. Neoliberalism is even further right. The entire US political spectrum save for a tiny handful of elected officials (Bernie and the squad, most of whom are centrists at best) are right wing to fascist.

[-] Doom@ttrpg.network 2 points 10 months ago

Nope. You completely don't understand classic liberalism and modern liberalism or neoliberalism

[-] inv3r510n@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Dude. You’re embarrassing yourself.

[-] Doom@ttrpg.network 1 points 10 months ago

Because what three yuppies think Liberalism, the beginning of the concept of left wing anything, is right wing? Billions of people on the planet three morons aren't right big deal lmfao.

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