The person who is upfront about it can be reasoned with. The liar is never going to be trustworthy.
If the guy at the train station lies and tells me that the train will be here in an hour I waste an hour. If he tells me the train has been cancelled I know to make another plan.
I don’t know. Expecting people to go along with a system that’s literally killing them seems way more privileged. You must not be suffering under the current status quo.
Again, you’re outing yourself. Not only do you obviously not have a US corporation or cop pointing a gun at you, but you can’t even perceive the people around you who do.
You ever had to ration insulin? Ever been subjected to police brutality? Ever been driven to homelessness because corporate landlords bought all the housing inventory?
Read a little history. Things were way worse in the great Depression, and people organized and voted in the right leadership without resorting to 'burning it down.'
I never said that things were perfect, or even good. I said that you personally are privileged. The fact that you have time to get into this argument proves that you're not being in the least oppressed personally.
Like I said, you're pushing for people to lose what little they have so you can sit back in Mommy's basement and get all tingly watchign the action.
I’ve read a lot of history. More than you it seems. If you read more, you’d know working class people are actually worse off today than they were in the Great Depression. Inequality, hunger, homelessness, and economic suffering are measurably worse now.
You’d also know FDR specifically pushed for capitalist reform because the people were on the cusp of revolution, and he wanted to avoid a communist uprising.
Your refusal to acknowledge suffering people exist around you does not make them disappear. But I guess you believe empathy is a neckbeard thing?
Sounds like you’ve bought into the capitalist propaganda that all of society will collapse without greedy middlemen to control it all. You lack both intelligence and imagination.
The distribution system already exists. The executives skimming massive profits out of it are not a critical component. In fact, it will function much better & more efficiently without that layer.
You're pretty funny yourself. "The Grapes of Wrath' was all about how much the New Deal helped people. Now you're on the side of a guy who is trashing FDR.
Well what he said about FDRs new deal push is true, communism was much more prevalent in the US before mcarthysism, he was well aware of that, you can find your choice of source.
McCarthy came years after FDR died. But yeah, I guess if you don't know history it all happened at once.
Actually, that’s exactly my point. Blue MAGA acts shocked people don’t want to bury their heads in the sand with them, and expects the rest of us to stop complaining and just eat the spit.
I sincerely doubt you're going to actually shoot anyone. You're just sitting on the internet and complaining, while calling people ignorant who know what "first past the post" means.
Yes. I want to say on the record, for anyone potentially monitoring this conversation, I absolutely will not shoot anyone. This is a discussion of hypotheticals.
What? How am I being smug by just pointing out that falling for a con is... Falling for a con? Trump is a well, well, well documented con man. Like... Maybe the most well documented con man ever. It's really hard to feel bad for anyone who voted for him getting screwed over.
To be clear, I don't blame people who fall for scams or cons. I did say it's hard to feel bad for Trump voters specifically, but that's a pretty special circumstance as I tried to describe.
All I said was that falling for a scam or con is falling for a scam or con.
If a con man offers me the world, and you offer me nothing, and I listen to the con man... I've still fallen for the con, my guy.
Not really. You just chose the least shitty option you were being forced into.
But I understand acknowledging that would interfere with your ability to feel smug.
How is a lie 'the least shitty option?'
Because it’s a binary choice where the other option is someone not even willing to pretend they’ll help you.
Still a bad option.
The person who is upfront about it can be reasoned with. The liar is never going to be trustworthy.
If the guy at the train station lies and tells me that the train will be here in an hour I waste an hour. If he tells me the train has been cancelled I know to make another plan.
A better example would be a waiter who spits on your sandwich in the kitchen vs one who’ll spit on it after they drop it off at the table.
Your best choice is to burn down the diner.
Nothing says 'privilege' more than people who talk about burning the system down.
It's like the guys who have never been in a fight are always ready to see other people go at it.
I don’t know. Expecting people to go along with a system that’s literally killing them seems way more privileged. You must not be suffering under the current status quo.
Look at Ukraine or Gaza if you want to see suffering.
Like I said, 'privilege.'
Again, you’re outing yourself. Not only do you obviously not have a US corporation or cop pointing a gun at you, but you can’t even perceive the people around you who do.
lol!
You are freely using a computer. You obviously have access to electricity, and probably haven't missed a meal in your life.
Where's this gun pointed at your head?
Dude you really can’t stop embarrassing yourself.
You ever had to ration insulin? Ever been subjected to police brutality? Ever been driven to homelessness because corporate landlords bought all the housing inventory?
Talk about embarrassing.
Read a little history. Things were way worse in the great Depression, and people organized and voted in the right leadership without resorting to 'burning it down.'
I never said that things were perfect, or even good. I said that you personally are privileged. The fact that you have time to get into this argument proves that you're not being in the least oppressed personally.
Like I said, you're pushing for people to lose what little they have so you can sit back in Mommy's basement and get all tingly watchign the action.
I’ve read a lot of history. More than you it seems. If you read more, you’d know working class people are actually worse off today than they were in the Great Depression. Inequality, hunger, homelessness, and economic suffering are measurably worse now.
You’d also know FDR specifically pushed for capitalist reform because the people were on the cusp of revolution, and he wanted to avoid a communist uprising.
Your refusal to acknowledge suffering people exist around you does not make them disappear. But I guess you believe empathy is a neckbeard thing?
lol!
Thanks, I needed a good laugh today and your silly antics made me smile.
Yes, it’s become clear you think the suffering of others is laughable. You’ve been extremely upfront about your attitude towards people like that.
We both know that you aren't suffering. I'm laughing at you in particular.
The fact you can't figure that out is what makes it even funnier.
I never said I was. I care about people who are. You seem unaware those people even exist.
I understand that empathy and advocating for others is difficult for you to comprehend. You’ve not been subtle about it.
And your idea of helping people who can't get insulin is to burn down the system so no insulin gets delivered?
That's such a helpful idea. [/s]
Sounds like you’ve bought into the capitalist propaganda that all of society will collapse without greedy middlemen to control it all. You lack both intelligence and imagination.
Give me one reason to think you could organize a wienie roast, much less the distribution system for the country.
The distribution system already exists. The executives skimming massive profits out of it are not a critical component. In fact, it will function much better & more efficiently without that layer.
You're pretty funny yourself. "The Grapes of Wrath' was all about how much the New Deal helped people. Now you're on the side of a guy who is trashing FDR.
McCarthy came years after FDR died. But yeah, I guess if you don't know history it all happened at once.
So, you're not actually interested in anything but an online beef?
Kinda thought so.
I don't need to seek out more aggro.
Try getting some friends if you want DMs.
Good-bye
Even your own example doesn't prove your point. I'd rather someone spit in my food where I can see it and ignore it.
Actually, that’s exactly my point. Blue MAGA acts shocked people don’t want to bury their heads in the sand with them, and expects the rest of us to stop complaining and just eat the spit.
So you would rather eat spit than see someone spit in your food and send it back? No wonder you're praising republicans
No, I’d rather shoot the person who spit in my sandwich.
You’re the one who believes the only alternative to democrats is republicans. Don’t project your idiocy onto me.
I sincerely doubt you're going to actually shoot anyone. You're just sitting on the internet and complaining, while calling people ignorant who know what "first past the post" means.
Yes. I want to say on the record, for anyone potentially monitoring this conversation, I absolutely will not shoot anyone. This is a discussion of hypotheticals.
Anyway, I 100% support anyone who does. Like this hero: https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/brian-thompson-unitedhealthcare-ceo-manhattan-shooting/
I can't believe assassinations are back in style. We went a good few years without any
I hope it’s the first of many to come.
That would be something to see, wouldn't it?
Read history/theory. We will see it.
I have a theory of my own: it's the only form of accountability remaining, so it's what people will begin to choose
Definitely. “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.”
What? How am I being smug by just pointing out that falling for a con is... Falling for a con? Trump is a well, well, well documented con man. Like... Maybe the most well documented con man ever. It's really hard to feel bad for anyone who voted for him getting screwed over.
Love the ‘how am I being smug?!’ followed by the classic smug victim blaming.
Both Dem and GOP supporters are being conned. Neither of you are in a position to be pointing fingers at the other.
To be clear, I don't blame people who fall for scams or cons. I did say it's hard to feel bad for Trump voters specifically, but that's a pretty special circumstance as I tried to describe.
All I said was that falling for a scam or con is falling for a scam or con.