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[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 21 points 2 weeks ago

How is a lie 'the least shitty option?'

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Because it’s a binary choice where the other option is someone not even willing to pretend they’ll help you.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 16 points 2 weeks ago

Still a bad option.

The person who is upfront about it can be reasoned with. The liar is never going to be trustworthy.

If the guy at the train station lies and tells me that the train will be here in an hour I waste an hour. If he tells me the train has been cancelled I know to make another plan.

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

A better example would be a waiter who spits on your sandwich in the kitchen vs one who’ll spit on it after they drop it off at the table.

Your best choice is to burn down the diner.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 6 points 2 weeks ago

Nothing says 'privilege' more than people who talk about burning the system down.

It's like the guys who have never been in a fight are always ready to see other people go at it.

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

I don’t know. Expecting people to go along with a system that’s literally killing them seems way more privileged. You must not be suffering under the current status quo.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago

Look at Ukraine or Gaza if you want to see suffering.

Like I said, 'privilege.'

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Again, you’re outing yourself. Not only do you obviously not have a US corporation or cop pointing a gun at you, but you can’t even perceive the people around you who do.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago

lol!

You are freely using a computer. You obviously have access to electricity, and probably haven't missed a meal in your life.

Where's this gun pointed at your head?

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Dude you really can’t stop embarrassing yourself.

You ever had to ration insulin? Ever been subjected to police brutality? Ever been driven to homelessness because corporate landlords bought all the housing inventory?

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago

Talk about embarrassing.

Read a little history. Things were way worse in the great Depression, and people organized and voted in the right leadership without resorting to 'burning it down.'

I never said that things were perfect, or even good. I said that you personally are privileged. The fact that you have time to get into this argument proves that you're not being in the least oppressed personally.

Like I said, you're pushing for people to lose what little they have so you can sit back in Mommy's basement and get all tingly watchign the action.

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I’ve read a lot of history. More than you it seems. If you read more, you’d know working class people are actually worse off today than they were in the Great Depression. Inequality, hunger, homelessness, and economic suffering are measurably worse now.

You’d also know FDR specifically pushed for capitalist reform because the people were on the cusp of revolution, and he wanted to avoid a communist uprising.

Your refusal to acknowledge suffering people exist around you does not make them disappear. But I guess you believe empathy is a neckbeard thing?

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago

lol!

Thanks, I needed a good laugh today and your silly antics made me smile.

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, it’s become clear you think the suffering of others is laughable. You’ve been extremely upfront about your attitude towards people like that.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago

We both know that you aren't suffering. I'm laughing at you in particular.

The fact you can't figure that out is what makes it even funnier.

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

I never said I was. I care about people who are. You seem unaware those people even exist.

I understand that empathy and advocating for others is difficult for you to comprehend. You’ve not been subtle about it.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago

And your idea of helping people who can't get insulin is to burn down the system so no insulin gets delivered?

That's such a helpful idea. [/s]

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Sounds like you’ve bought into the capitalist propaganda that all of society will collapse without greedy middlemen to control it all. You lack both intelligence and imagination.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago

Give me one reason to think you could organize a wienie roast, much less the distribution system for the country.

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

The distribution system already exists. The executives skimming massive profits out of it are not a critical component. In fact, it will function much better & more efficiently without that layer.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

Give me one reason to think you could organize a wienie roast, much less the distribution system for the country.

So, you couldn't even answer a simple question. Good luck with your revolution.

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Your lack of reading comprehension is no fault of mine.

Working people already built the distribution system. It exists now. So I don’t know what the hell you mean.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago

So, you couldn’t even answer a simple question. Good luck with your revolution.

You've gone from amusingly insipid to redundant. I have better things to do than justify your keyboard crackpottery

So long, little buckaroo. thanks for the laughs. Too bad you got boring.

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Do you think that repeating a stupid question makes it better?

The thing you’re asking ‘how can we build it’ about already exists. We already built it, dumbass.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

So long, little buckaroo. thanks for the laughs. Too bad you got boring.

Which letter in 'so long' confused you?

[-] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I'm laughin at how ugly you seem as a person itt. It's not funny, but what else can i do watching your mask slip? I'm all out of tears watchin others like you fall

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago

You're pretty funny yourself. "The Grapes of Wrath' was all about how much the New Deal helped people. Now you're on the side of a guy who is trashing FDR.

Well what he said about FDRs new deal push is true, communism was much more prevalent in the US before mcarthysism, he was well aware of that, you can find your choice of source.

And the grapes of wrath was, um, NOT about the new deal. It follows a farm family as they are destroyed by the dust bowl and predatory banks, and the struggle against police backed rich landowners in California

You should read it. It's good

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago

Well what he said about FDRs new deal push is true, communism was much more prevalent in the US before mcarthysism, he was well aware of that, you can find your choice of source.

McCarthy came years after FDR died. But yeah, I guess if you don't know history it all happened at once.

[-] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Going with deliberately misunderstanding me? Cmon brother i thought you were more talented than this.

But i like you. Believe it or not? I love smartasses, it's fun to beef online. But this is not fun, this lil trick is some gradeschool crap.

I think you're probably better than this. Tomorrow or the day after when you are less upset we can go over ideas for you to up your game.

first one's free playa: don't go after someone named after a character in a book you never read! C'mon! Why? That's just askin to be clowned!

DM me ok? I'm fr can help

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago

So, you're not actually interested in anything but an online beef?

Kinda thought so.

I don't need to seek out more aggro.

Try getting some friends if you want DMs.

Good-bye

Noooooooooooooooo i lost another soul. when will i get a student? Damnit TOM! DAMNIT!

Fine, ill find another grasshopper.

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Even your own example doesn't prove your point. I'd rather someone spit in my food where I can see it and ignore it.

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Actually, that’s exactly my point. Blue MAGA acts shocked people don’t want to bury their heads in the sand with them, and expects the rest of us to stop complaining and just eat the spit.

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

So you would rather eat spit than see someone spit in your food and send it back? No wonder you're praising republicans

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

No, I’d rather shoot the person who spit in my sandwich.

You’re the one who believes the only alternative to democrats is republicans. Don’t project your idiocy onto me.

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

I sincerely doubt you're going to actually shoot anyone. You're just sitting on the internet and complaining, while calling people ignorant who know what "first past the post" means.

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Yes. I want to say on the record, for anyone potentially monitoring this conversation, I absolutely will not shoot anyone. This is a discussion of hypotheticals.

Anyway, I 100% support anyone who does. Like this hero: https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/brian-thompson-unitedhealthcare-ceo-manhattan-shooting/

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

I can't believe assassinations are back in style. We went a good few years without any

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

I hope it’s the first of many to come.

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

That would be something to see, wouldn't it?

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Read history/theory. We will see it.

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

I have a theory of my own: it's the only form of accountability remaining, so it's what people will begin to choose

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Definitely. “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.”

No, of course not, because you two are discussing a hypothetical situation made to be adjacent to a larger point. Keep up dogg, it's your argument

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

We're discussing hypothetical actions, not our ideal desires here. Sure it would be great to have more than two parties, but in reality, you must vote in a manner that has practical results.

[-] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

You like it? I've got so much more if so. I'm champin at the bit here

Edit for your edit: don't try and shit a shitter

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