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This is the first time I'm seeing a way to host a full Bluesky network, I think. It seems like a big step towards full federation beyond appviews and personal data servers.

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[-] solrize@lemmy.world 27 points 20 hours ago

There is already a fediverse twitalike called mastodon. I don't understand why anyone here cares about bluesky.

[-] VintageGenious@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 hours ago

Because the protocol allows to decentralize each part, unlike fediverse

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 3 points 9 hours ago

Is there any non-Bluesky server people can register to?

[-] Docus@lemmy.world 21 points 17 hours ago

Because mastodon is the Linux of social media. One day it will be ready for the average user…

[-] lemmymarud@lemmy.marud.fr 9 points 14 hours ago

2025 is the year of ~~Linux Desktop~~ Mastodon

[-] rammer@sopuli.xyz 34 points 20 hours ago

Because it has the users Mastodon lacks.

[-] solrize@lemmy.world 23 points 20 hours ago

By that logic we should also connect up with facebook and 4chan, not to mention twitter itself. bsky is just another one of those platforms from what I can tell. It is fairly new so not yet blatantly evil, but give it time. We here are supposed to know better.

[-] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 5 points 15 hours ago

bluesky is foss and open to federation, why not bluesky? Also a mastodon bluesky bridge is possible because of this as well

[-] admin@lemmyusa.com 1 points 1 hour ago

Investors offer money, federation goes bye-bye and you end up with another twitter.

[-] solrize@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago

It's not about the code, it's about control of the servers and feeds. Decentralization doesn't just mean multiple servers. It means no single entity has special authority over the user community. That isn't the case with bluesky from what I can tell.

[-] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 7 points 9 hours ago

You are correct, if you take a step back and consider bluesky wholistically, it is DEFINITELY not decentralized.

[-] rammer@sopuli.xyz 11 points 18 hours ago

By that logic we should be happy gazing at our own navels, shouting to the void, looking at empty pages.

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 9 points 18 hours ago

Navels, but federated!

[-] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 2 points 14 hours ago

That's how I see nostr

[-] iopq@lemmy.world 10 points 19 hours ago

Because it doesn't have search (at least my instance doesn't), doesn't show engagement so the whole thing feels empty like people are posting into the void

[-] solrize@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago

If the problem is fixable technical shortcomings, why not fix them instead of throwing up our hands and surrendering?

[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 6 points 14 hours ago

As a Linux user since 2007 I feel a little dirty uttering this phrase, but:

Because not everyone is a developer.

[-] solrize@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

You don't have to be a developer to use Lemmy, yet it has similar features to reddit including search. Maybe there are sociological issues in growing its userbase, but not serious technical ones, as Usenet showed 40 years ago.

It sounds like mastodon still has technical issues . If Lemmy's were solvable, mastodon's are too. Otherwise, how did mastodon get built in the first place?

[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 5 points 14 hours ago

Just clarifying because I feel we're talking past each other:

You asked the folks in this discussion:

If the problem is fixable technical shortcomings, why not fix them instead of throwing up our hands and surrendering?

to which I said

Because not everyone is a developer.

to which you said

You don’t have to be a developer to use Lemmy

True. But that's not what where we're at in the discussion.

It sounds like mastodon still has technical issues . If Lemmy’s were solvable, mastodon’s are too. Otherwise, how did mastodon get built in the first place?

I'm quite sure they are solvable, but likely not by the folks complaining about the technical issues and choosing to use other services like bluesky. Because not everyone is a developer.

So in other words, I think your musing out loud about why don't we solve the issues instead of giving up and using something else is being directed to the wrong people.

this post was submitted on 04 Dec 2024
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