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[-] ToastedPlanet 12 points 1 month ago

It's the bare minimum. We are supposed to have justice for all in this country. Not just justice for Hunter Biden.

How about Biden starts now and focuses on getting as many done as possible. What's this angle of pretending it's too difficult?

[-] UsernameHere@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

No matter what Biden does you’re going to complain it isn’t enough

[-] ToastedPlanet 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

How are you satisfied with Joe Biden pardoning Hunter Biden and calling it a day? The rich and the powerful get justice and that's it? Why defend Biden on this one?

The Democrats refuse to use power for the sake of norms until they personally can benefit from breaking the norm. This doesn't help anyone other than Hunter Biden. They should challenge norms for the benefit of the American people. Biden has the pardon power and plenty of time left. He should use it! edit: typo

[-] pivot_root@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's hard to blame people for wanting to hold on to the hope that the Democratic party* isn't also self-serving. They're wrong, but their hearts are probably in the right place.

Edit: In light of the downvotes, let me clarify: I don't think either the Democrats or Republicans give a rat's ass about their voters. I'm trying to be charitable towards people here.

[-] ToastedPlanet 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's been clear since Pelosi and other Democrats were caught insider trading that most contemporary politicians are self-serving. The distinction we should care about is that for Republicans the cruelty is the point. Where as democrats at least make an effort to make things better even if it's incremental.

Pardons would be an incremental change to a systemic problem that, while insufficient, should be well within the Democrats wheelhouse and not unwelcome.

Democrats need to stop caring about taking the moral high road and start caring about using power to help people. They can't be bothered to see the former through to the end so they might as well do the latter. The core message of Biden's 2020 campaign was a battle for the soul of our nation. Thankfully souls aren't real because Biden lost that battle hard. edit: typos

[-] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Let's see what happens. By all means advocate, protest, anything. But don't most presidents do their mass pardons in like the last week if not the last days?

[-] ToastedPlanet 3 points 1 month ago

Presumably they were working on most of those pardons before they were issued. However I think actions presidents do at the end of their presidency get more attention. It seems like there have been lots of pardons and they don't all take place at the end of presidencies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_pardoned_or_granted_clemency_by_the_president_of_the_United_States

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

No matter what Biden does you’re going to complain it isn’t enough

Good point.. I assume Hunter gets to keep that 1.4 million of taxes he didnt pay and is now pardoned for, why not give him more of the treasuries money? Why not give all the rich people the money from the treasury?

[-] UsernameHere@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Nope, he already paid the owed taxes in December of 2020.

Good to know you’re willing to make stuff up to support your bias.

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Well thanks for the info I guess. You'll notice I said "I assume" rather than your claim that I was asserting it as fact. But point taken. In return I can suggest you can work on your tone when engaging strangers.

[-] UsernameHere@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

That’s my fault I read your comment wrong. I thought it said “I assume you think it’s ok Hunter gets to keep…”. My bad

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Nice of you to say that. My bad too then.

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