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submitted 2 weeks ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

Summary

President Joe Biden pardoned his son Hunter Biden, reversing his prior stance against using executive clemency.

The pardon covers Hunter’s federal gun conviction and tax evasion guilty plea, sparking political controversy.

Biden cited political attacks and a “miscarriage of justice” as reasons for his decision, emphasizing his son’s recovery from addiction and the targeting of his family.

Critics argue the move undermines the judicial process, while supporters view it as within Biden’s constitutional powers.

This decision shields Hunter from potential prison time as Biden nears the end of his presidency.

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[-] nifty@lemmy.world 55 points 2 weeks ago

Good. I hope the democrats play just as dirty and hard as the republicans going forward. We cannot be civil with barbarians.

[-] pjwestin@lemmy.world 56 points 2 weeks ago

I would also like them to do that too, but I would prefer they do it for something other than nepotism.

[-] nifty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

The left needs a populist movement like Bernie Sanders has been saying, the movements the left has seen prior to this point have tapered out because they didn’t get money backed support, and because they didn’t capture the hearts and mind of the comfortable democrat voter.

It’s had been an uphill battle till now, but maybe things will be different going forward because the republicans are going to peel back a lot of hard won rights and freedoms, and also degrade quality of life and standards of living with their health, economic and education policies.

[-] pjwestin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

...I don't disagree, but I'm struggling to see how this is related to my comment. Are you replying to the right person?

[-] nifty@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Oh thanks, don’t recall which one I was replying to

[-] Banik2008@infosec.pub 18 points 2 weeks ago

In a world where we keep poking each other's eyes out, everyone ends up blind.

[-] nifty@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago

Stop, please.

I believe in the goodness in people more than is optimistically allowed, but even I am forced to acknowledge the existence of sociopaths and psychopaths who abuse the good will of innocents and well-meaning people alike.

Sociopaths and psychopaths will always make fun of those they abuse, and they will use the morals and ethics of people against them.

[-] Cleggory@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Sociopaths and psychopaths will always make fun of those they abuse, and they will use the morals and ethics of ~~people~~ simple hypocrites against them.

You are a simple hypocrite.

[-] Acemod@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

Wow, dude calls out shitty people and you decide to claim solidarity with the shitty people.

[-] Cleggory@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Wow, dude uses shitty people as a litmus test for good behavior and you decide to claim solidarity with the shitty people.

[-] Acemod@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, I don't believe you know what you are talking about.

[-] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 25 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Stop both sides bs, this is a guy pardoning his son's addiction, not committing treason, attacking the capital, or selecting a cabinet of pedophiles. Have some fucking humanity, putibot.

[-] agrv13@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Have some fucking humanity, putibot.

humanity for the guy responsible for thousands of dead kids and many more being starved simply for the crime of being born in a disgusting apartheid state ? the hypocrisy of the american elites knows no shame.

biden deserves all the misery in this life and after it.

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 weeks ago

Biden is trash but it's somewhat absurd to hold him accountable for USA's long history of genocidal imperialism. If it weren't him, it would just be another brainwashed puppet.

[-] agrv13@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

biden has the highest donation from aipac and has basically acted as their pimp for all his political career. he held the ukraine aid hostage to supply 2000lb bombs to mass murder civilians in refugee camps. atleast in past there was the pretense of cold war but this time its a democrat president shamelessly enabling a genocide of poor brown people while starving & evicting them from their own land. forget weapons they don’t even have enough tents and food to survive the winter and this two faced shtihag is sending them f-35 and artillery worth tens of billions.

and now his whoring addict son making millions of his political connections while cheating millions on taxes deserves 10yr blanket pardon while newborns are blown to pieces by his very policies ? and this make him humane ?

downvotes all you want but you are all are defending a rotten genocider

Palestinian newborn twins killed as father obtained birth certificates

[-] btaf45@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago
[-] agrv13@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

no country other than maybe Britain has killed even a tenth of civilians. ukraine looks like a peace summit compared to what us did to bangalesh, combodia, south america and even palestine today. trump today very much represents the systemic moral rot that america is. but everyone there is now crying because they are going to be mildly affected by the fasicsm they have forced across the world

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/genocide-us-cant-remember-bangladesh-cant-forget-180961490/

https://jacobin.com/2023/11/kissinger-in-cambodia

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago

Empire has always been blind to justice, freedom, etc.

[-] Acemod@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Have you poked your own eyes yet?

[-] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

These people don't deserve eyes

[-] squid_slime@lemm.ee 17 points 2 weeks ago

Its not exactly revolutionary action, him pardoning his son is no win for the working class

[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

him pardoning his son is no win for the working class

Who cares?

Anyone who has bothered to do their homework knows the Democrat party votes in favor of the working class WAY more often than Republicans. Hell, a few weeks before the election Trump and Musk did a televised interview where they jerked each other off about how much they hate unions and worker rights. Then working Americans voted them into power.

Now stupid Americans are going to get the corruption they deserve.

[-] squid_slime@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago

This is whataboutism, I am for neither blue or red, I hope they both burn. The only group I care for is the working class hense I care about nepotism within the political class.

[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

The only group I care for is the working class

Then I'm sure you've done your homework and found out that Democrats historically vote in favor of the working class WAY more than Republicans, so you should vote Democrat if you care about the working class.

Because I promise you, a 3rd party isn't viable in the United States, so your options are Democrat or Republican.

Not that you may have that option anymore going forward.

[-] squid_slime@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

I'm a revolutionary socialist. I give no fucks to what little bread crumbs the dems brush off of the table. We have seen "democratic" politics play out, the centrist shift to the right.

[-] yarr@feddit.nl 3 points 2 weeks ago

But then the Democrats will BECOME the barbarians. Do not stoop to the level of sloppy populism -- behave honorably and it will pay off in the long-term.

[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

behave honorably and it will pay off in the long-term.

.........HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!

[-] btaf45@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

behave honorably and it will pay off in the long-term.

We found out in 2024 that is not true. Voters are perfectly willing to vote for the most dishonorable candidate ever to run for office.

[-] yarr@feddit.nl 1 points 2 weeks ago

2024 is not long term. This is not the last election.

[-] btaf45@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Taking the "high road" WAS the Dems long term plan. It failed. Doesn't work.

[-] yarr@feddit.nl 1 points 2 weeks ago

It failed in the short term. We still have the whole remainder of USA history (whatever that ends up being). Despite what parties will have you believe, there is a life outside of the run up to the election and inauguration. There is also a Democrat presence at lower levels, for example, in the state and county contexts. I would prefer it if the whole world doesn't rush to emulate Trump in their approach to the world, as I don't think it's the best long term plan for our country.

Faith in promises made by presidents is at an all time low and I don't think we need to do more to further degrade that.

[-] SeaJ@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago

Fuck that. Playing dirty in this instance does zilch to help you. Why the fuck would you support this? How does Hunter Biden being pardoned help you or anyone else at all? Democrats are okay to play dirty when it is done defending basic rights for Americans, not for the political elite. Hunter is a grifter and he should absolutely face the consequences.

[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Why the fuck would you support this?

Because I'm tired of watching the Dems be held to a higher standard and taking the high road and honoring decorum and losing to a corrupt as fuck party of traitors.

Americans voted for corruption, so now they're going to get it. Hopefully we get so fucking corrupt it actually makes us act like adults and vote more intelligently. Doubt it. We're probably done for. But that's our own fault.

[-] SeaJ@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago

Again, I'm perfectly fine with Democrats playing dirty when it helps the country as a whole. They want to gerrymander to hell to get something like socialized health insurance passed or something like ranked choice voting? Have at it. This is just nepotism. It doesn't help you. It doesn't help the Democratic Party. Nobody should be for this.

[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

This is just nepotism. It doesn’t help you.

Nepotism is standard in America. We don't care enough to actually do anything about it. In fact, we just voted to make it worse. I'm aware it doesn't help me. It helps a guy who was a solid president who doesn't want his son to be in prison for non-violent crimes while a criminal president who openly stated he will target his political opponents sits in the Oval Office. Can't blame him in the least. Especially since most presidents pardon people who support them at the end of their term. It's normal in America.

If we didn't like it, we could vote more intelligently. But we don't, and we won't.

[-] Cataphract@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

30% of eligible voters elected Trump, Democrats are allowed now to do what they want. Okie-dokie.

Continue on with your "they took the high road" loss analysis. It's been said so many times I don't think anyone even knows what the "high road" is. If you could explain it to me I might be better informed.

[-] nifty@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I mean, I agreed already that this action isn’t a win for voters. I am just sick of people crying about Biden doing this selfish thing for his family when Republicans are literally supporting white supremacy. There’s too much money support for the white supremacy movement, the left it needs own comparable financing against this.

[-] SeaJ@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago

How does this combat that? Does this bring in funding to do that? It absolutely does not.

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