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Lean vs. fast (lemmy.ml)

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[-] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 80 points 2 weeks ago

TFW you want to do things good, slow and expensive, but management makes you do them fast, cheap and crap.

For your entire career.

Please kill me

[-] RagingToad@feddit.nl 8 points 2 weeks ago

Change management! :-)

Or, if possible, change employer.

(And I know we're in meme-land, but I always see it as a developer's task to inform of the trade-off between fast and good)

[-] Bougie_Birdie 7 points 2 weeks ago

Every other skilled trade just says "Fast, Right, or Cheap: pick two."

It's not my fault if they always pick fast and cheap

[-] RagingToad@feddit.nl 4 points 2 weeks ago

Okay, sure, do fast. Then:

I'll add a refactor task to the backlog filed under "tech debt"
please confirm again that you know we are still behind on security updates and that you're ok with it because you are responsible for how I spend my hours
I'd like more time to spend on bugs before we lose customers.
Also I won't touch that buggy part without taking the time for a rewrite because we did it "fast" per your request and it's so hard to maintain now that it becomes a time sink on every minor change
I know we are under time pressure right now, but as a stakeholder I request we plan a few sprints for improving reliability of our product
It's not "fun" to work on our code. We might lose developers if we do not address this. We both know the good coders will have no problem finding a new job and you'll end up with the bad ones.
Either that, or plan for loss of personnel and the extra time we need for the hiring process and the loss of developer hours

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 weeks ago

TFW you want to do things good, slow and expensive, but management makes you do them fast, cheap and crap.

For your entire career.

Please kill me

i got the sense that some people wanted to when i made this same point about this industry in this same community about a week or so ago.

i love the duality of lemmy sometimes. lol

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

Are you me?

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