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Republicans: Pull yourself up by the bootstraps, kill all social programs, raise taxes on the 99%, kill public infrastructure, and lastly go fuck yourself (Republican voter base proceeds to cheer)
Democrats: Uhhhhh.... Tax cuts for small buisnesses anyone? Oh wait the republicans are calling us communist for doing that. Well if we just compromise with them and allow sooome fascism we'll be able to get some of our agenda across as well. (Leftists proceed to boo the Dems for being Fascism Lite™)
can i get an example of the "some" fascism?
Examples of Fascism:
puzzle me this one, mr philosopher, how do you end fascism, without more fascism?
By your logic the US banning slavery was authoritarian
i mean, that wouldn't be authoritarian, if it had popular sentiment, and was cast into law by popular sentiment more broadly. And yknow, also went through the congress, and the executive, and most of the rest of the federal government. But nope we don't know how the US federal government works here so we pretend like it works otherwise.
authoritarianism is a specific brand of dictatorship.
Giving support to Israel is one example that some people would likely provide. I would like to see as few war crimes as possible, and I'm not certain that Israel isn't committing any (to put things very lightly).
israeli support is definitely one of them, but then again it's the middle east. They don't seem to like peaceful resolution to problems in general.
war crimes are definitely bad, but when you launch in invasion plan into a country by starting off with a little bit of terrorism, i feel like it's pretty safe to say most bets are off the table by that point unfortunately.
Bipartisan war in drugs/police state
I guess the George floydd protests didn't go far enough to get that change Obama promised.
i dont see how war on drugs/police existing are fascism.
Unless you mean to tell me there is a US state where the police run the government.
unsure what change we're talking about with obama, but to be clear, the floyd protests were some of the largest and most significant protests in the history of the US. Although with a rather shitty mantra, so that didn't help much.
ICE internment camps
You need to give examples that aren't fascist.
well then we're going into a very bad position for you my friend.
I bring you, voting.
Voting for only 2 people that are both owned by corporations lol, yikes
who else are you going to vote for bro. Some dude with no political experience lmao
To be fair, some people might say "Yes, I voted for Donald J. Trump".
Trump actually had some political experience before 2015 though: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_career_of_Donald_Trump#1988_presidential_election
unfortunately those people would be wrong lol.
Also i wouldn't consider campaigning to be political experience, i consider holding an office position to be actual experience.
Are there ways to have political experience without holding an office position?
If the only way to have political experience is holding an office position, there will come a time when the only people you can vote for are dudes with no political experience: eventually some council member or city mayor will die and nobody with "actual experience" will campaign.
Do you just not apply this metric to local offices, or to people who have held a local office position?
it depends on how strictly you define political experience, in this case i define it as having actual relevant experience to the position and job at hand, as well as the bodies behind it (civil education, of which most people do not have)
if you define it loosely, something like "being politically educated" i'm more qualified for holding presidency than trump is.
of course i would argue lower levels of position require less experience, for example being a house or senate member. These things require a lot less knowledge than being a president. Still a good amount of knowledge, but you can manage these with little to no information, if you're intelligent and capable.