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But the rich are supplying a demand. And a ton of innovation wouldn’t be there without them.

[-] AngrilyEatingMuffins@kbin.social 108 points 1 year ago

Imagine thinking CEOs drive innovation lmao

[-] minorsecond@lemm.ee 29 points 1 year ago

Why does it seem like there are a ton more conservatives here on Lemmy than there were on Reddit?

[-] MountainTurkey 29 points 1 year ago

My theory is they just had a habit of getting banned so they weren't as visable

[-] minorsecond@lemm.ee 31 points 1 year ago

I don’t know how I feel about it. On one hand, it makes for less of an echo chamber. On the other hand, their thoughts are fucking stupid and it hurts my brain to see them.

[-] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago

They have the right to be here and express their thoughts.

What they don't have is a right to our attention.

Ignore them and block accounts that get annoying.

[-] AngrilyEatingMuffins@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago

Idk. I’m on kbin and haven’t experienced that. Usually when I wish violent death on conservatives I get a ton of upvotes.

[-] minorsecond@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

I mean, I think they're definitely still in the minority. It seems like there's a larger proportion of them here than on reddit. I see more of their opinions here. Maybe that's just how the algo works here regarding upvotes & downvotes and how comments are displayed.

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[-] Transcendant@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Happy to have them here. I almost never agree with them, but not only is it good to have your opinion challenged (though often wearying to have to repeat yourself), it's good for THEM to have their opinion challenged too. Maybe only 1/100 will change their opinion after being challenged and seeing that their opinion is very much in the minority, but that's 1/100 more than if we were all chatting away in a safe space with no opposing views.

(and to be clear, no I don't think shit like nazis, devout racists etc is an 'opposing view' that deserves any debate)

[-] ShakyPerception@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They are not getting down-voted into nothingness for refusing to tow the party line.

I appreciate the variety of opinions presented here. Plus (in my experience) the conversation has been civil.

[-] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah. I hardcore disagree with conservatives as a libertarian socialist myself, but I always want to hear what people who disagree with me (and people who agree with me) are saying, and engage in civil conversation with people who actually believe what they say.

The problem for me comes when shills (people who don't believe what they say but get paid to say it) come into the conversation, or when people use outright disingenuous arguments (usually strawmans).

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago

Assuming any conservative is arguing in good faith is your first mistake.

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[-] PoopingCough@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

You mean like the disinformation that this user is literally spreading in this very thread?

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[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

For every person that choose to leave reddit...

There's 5-10 "conservatives" who were ip banned and dont have a choice between Reddit and Lemmy.

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[-] MostlyBirds@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago

You mean the innovation that's destroying the planet? Ok bro.

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[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago

The worst kind of bootlicking.

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Are you sure it's not the demand driving the demand? The rich are the supply-side of "supply and demand".

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