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[-] Vilian@lemmy.ca 51 points 5 hours ago

Are you implying that win10 is worse than win8?

[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 19 points 4 hours ago

Yea, I'd say Win10/11 is on the same good/shit cycle as always

Though whether Win12 breaks it and continues the shitty trend is highly likely at this point

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

Highly disagree, 10 is just worse than 7. Its more like a downward spiral.

[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 8 points 1 hour ago

7 > 10 > 8 > 11

On this graph 10 should be where 8 is and 8 should be where 10 is, 11 is exactly where it should be

[-] pixelscript@lemm.ee 5 points 3 hours ago

I'd call it a damped spring oscillation. Still goes up and down, but the extremes peter out with time.

[-] drathvedro@lemm.ee 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Definitely, yes. Win8 was unusable on desktops but was pretty good on tablets, win10 sucks on both. But the main thing is that spyware/bloatware explosion happened in win10. Xbox services, onedrive, cortana, that weather thing with msn news, fucking candy crush preinstalls, etc, all came with win10.

[-] bruhduh@lemmy.world 9 points 5 hours ago

Try to install windows 10 on hdd and see for yourself, Linux works fine no matter which device it's loaded from, windows before 10 did too

[-] thawed_caveman@lemmy.world 9 points 4 hours ago

Why would you install Windows 10 on a hard drive? If your computer is that old, you want 7 or XP

[-] y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 hours ago

Are 7 and XP still supported?

[-] thawed_caveman@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

No, but what are you going to do? Install WIn10 on a computer that's too old and doesn't meet the minimum specs?

If you have a 2010 computer, it's either old WIndows or Linux, modern WIndows is going to suck, if it even works. Ergo, i can't think of a circumstance where you'd want/have to install Win10 on a hard drive instead of an SSD.

Maybe shits and giggles, like trying to run Doom on random stuff? If someone has more imagination than me then i'm open

[-] bruhduh@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago

Modern linux mint with zram works flawlessly on lga775 4gb ram and Nvidia gt210 and hdd as main and only drive

[-] MaxHardwood@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 hours ago

If you're still running 10 does it matter?

[-] y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 hours ago

For a month or two

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

I have Windows 10 LTSC installed on an old hard drive and it works fine.

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 2 points 18 minutes ago

I've ran through 3 win 10 HDD computers and they all had sorts of performance issues with HDD. I don't think it was tested beyond bootup for HDD.

[-] absentbird@lemm.ee 3 points 52 minutes ago* (last edited 50 minutes ago)

I guess it depends on what your standards are for 'fine', or maybe it's a 10k rpm drive. Win 10 on a standard HDD is dog shit, I personally had to upgrade several offices from HDD to SSD when Windows 10 came out.

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 46 minutes ago

Got any recommendations for backing up / migrating systems to a new drive? I'd be willing to try it but I don't forsee enough benefit to warrant reinstalling everything on that machine.

[-] absentbird@lemm.ee 2 points 42 minutes ago

If you have a hard drive reader and spare thumb drive it's not too hard. Just put clonezilla on the thumb drive, boot it, put the new drive in the reader, and clone your old drive onto the new one.

Back in the day I usually just put a fresh install on the SSD and downloaded their personal files from the network copy. I found that upgrading from 7 to 10 had a uncomfortably high failure rate, so it was easier to just put a fresh install of 10 on and go from there.

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 40 minutes ago

Oh I'm never upgrading. That would be crazy.

[-] Hupf@feddit.org 6 points 5 hours ago

Windows philosophy is that it comes pre-installed and should be used with recent hardware. You may think of that what you will (environment wise etc), but to me that's a valid design choice to make, in principle.

[-] Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 5 hours ago

Can confirm. Win 10 on hdd is torture.

[-] Homescool@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago

I am missing something. Where else would you install Windows but the HDD? (I haven't installed windows in 20 years so I don't know)

[-] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 13 points 4 hours ago

I think they are talking HDD vs SSD.

[-] Homescool@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago
[-] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

If you've not yet tried putting an OS on an NVME drive, it'll change your life. Or at least speed up your computing.

[-] Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 hours ago

An SSD ? It's about disk speed. The HDDs speed limit make win 10 sluggish as hell. While not as bad, even Linux (mint) is starting to be affected by this.

[-] mrvictory1@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

I used both on HDD. They are both slow but while Mint is predictably slow and stable, Win10 can grind to a halt unexpectedly.

[-] Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago

My pc on win 10 took 20 to 30 min just to to start up. 🥲

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 hours ago

Which are all significantly better than Mac OS and are especially better than Linux

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