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United we stand, divided we fall. (files.sfba.social)
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[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 15 points 4 days ago

unfortunately, those are dignities, not rights. rights are a legal contract between you and your governing body. rights are granted. dignities are the things that are intrinsically connected to your personhood, your humanity, or both.

[-] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

So if your governing body decides you don't have rights, then you don't have those rights.

Edit: it seems like rights are only available to people who have enough power, money, and/or influence over the state to persuade the state to grant them the rights they desire.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago

That is generally how rights work, yes. But not how rights for people who believe in a humanist moral outlook think should work.

[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 8 points 4 days ago

precisely. when we talk about who runs the government and how they should operate it, we are generally (i can't speak for everyone) trying to navigate getting the rights the government grants us to align as perfectly as possible with the dignities we possess

[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 7 points 4 days ago

Edit: it seems like rights are only available to people who have enough power, money, and/or influence over the state to persuade them to grant then the rights they desire.

unfortunately, yes. this understanding of what rights and dignities are is what fully converted me to anarchism/communism in college. since the government values greed over all other human forces, our rights will always be more restricted than our dignities. our only hope as common people with net worths south of 1 billion dollars is to resist every chance we get.

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