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[-] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 27 points 4 days ago

How many during the third Reich?

[-] weeeeum@lemmy.world 35 points 4 days ago

A lot of white Germans and nazis, even after the war. Denazification was a toothless affair. Look at how rich Otto Skorzeny was. Many of Hitler's generals were let off the hook, even a lot of the Waffen SS. On top of that you have the executives of arms manufacturers, steel mills, oil refineries, any company vital to the war effort.

Every regime has its cronies.

[-] starchylemming@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

oh i can assure you, the general population/the normal people suffered greatly.

[-] uriel238 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

So in 2016 when Trump got elected the first time (by EC, still leaving everyone scratching their heads), a history teacher friend of mine started an activist group on Facebook based on The White Rose ( on Wikipedia ). Here in the States, we still have a considerable respect for the right to free speech, even though people speaking in defiance of the current tyrannical state may get attacked by nazis (id est MAGAs, alt-right militants, the usual run of official and unofficial Trump-enthusiasts).

Now the White Rose itself is not a great example, since they were all hunted down by the Gestapo and executed, but true to the mechanics of revolution, they made resistance sympathists of onlookers, and activists of sympathists (and militants of activists. No fewer than 42 plots to assassinate Adolph Hitler^†^ are known to have occurred, and it's likely we've missed some including the time-travelers who could retroactively cover their tracks.)

In fact modern resistance tactics (which includes those used by BLM during the 2020 George Floyd protests) highlight the same methods, by not being aggressive and letting the authoritarian forces initiate violence. It helps in an age where that stuff gets captured on phone camera and disseminated online, and the next thing you know, ICE is contending with a line of moms and another line of dads using leaf-blowers to disperse CS gas.

It's still a long journey between frustrating Trump to silliness and actually getting some relief to the public, but I'm willing to wear out my shoes trying.

† All the assassination attempts were from within. The Allies saw Hitler as a ~~weakness,~~ [vulnerability,] since he often would override his generals strategies and ignore technological developments that disinterested him. Hitler was also fond of attacking when it was astrologically auspicious, which the Allies used to effectively predict them.

Never interfere with your enemy when he is making a mistake. -- often attributed to Napoleon.

Only one German official was specifically targeted by the Allies, Jan Kubiš and Jozef Gabčík were trained specially by the British SOE to get close to and kill Reinhard Heydrich, and ambushed him 1942-May-27. Heydrich died eight days later from sepsis.

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