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[-] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

How come rural, under educated voters are able to make it out every election without problems.

I'm not going to defend people failing to do a simple task once every four years.

You have four years to prepare for the event. And there are only two states that don't offer early voting, and those states allow absentee ballots for people who won't be home, have disabilities, or would otherwise struggle to vote in person. We have more resources available than ever, it's easier than ever to vote, generally, thanks to widespread mail in voting adoption (which was demonstrated by a 6% higher turnout in 2020)

I am sure you can find excuses for people here and there who were really truly unable, but 90 million eligible voters failed to do their civic duty. Even assuming every single homeless person was unable to vote, which is unlikely, that's still 88.5 million that didn't show up, and let's take EVERY single person with a disability and assume they somehow couldn't vote, that's still 45 million people that didn't show up. And let's take EVERY single person under the poverty and assume they were unable to vote, then let's assume there is absolutely zero overlap, you still have 10+ million people who didn't show up, and that's assuming not a single of the above people voted.

Failing to prepare for something doesn't excuse you from the failure of doing it.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago

I hope you understand you reek of privledge with the way you talk. Rural voters have an easier time of voting, typically, because of the lower population density. In fact, urban areas are often intentionally short-staffed.

At the end of the day, people vote if they feel like it makes a difference. The fact of the matter is that it largely doesn't outside of swing states, and even in swing states the differences between the two candidates was not as high as it was in 2020, when Biden at least pretended to be progressive.

You have to take a real, systemic analysis and stop blaming individuals for broader societal problems.

[-] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I don't give a shit if I reek of anything, I give a shit about the millions of people who fail to fulfil their civic duties.

I'm blaming individuals for individually not doing their individual part.

Deciding not to vote because it 'feels' a certain way is just stupid, I don't care.

I'll add, rural people have no transit systems or infrastructure, they have to have running and maintained cars, and the ability to drive them, which would disproportionately affect disabled people and others that would have difficulty getting to physical polls.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago

You can continue to blame the oppressed for the system that oppresses them, and all you'll have is personal frustration and an inability to fix anything.

When you come across a problem, you must be careful to accurately identify the levers that can be pulled and the mechanisms behind the moving parts. The fact is, voter turnout is tied to ease of access to vote, and the chance for real change to come from voting. Currently, voting is difficult for millions of people, and voting doesn't enact change. You've failed to identify the source of the problem, and are blaming those downstream from the source, and as such will fail to get what you want.

[-] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Do you think all of the 90 million people who didn't vote are in such a poor position that they can't sit on their couch for 1 hour 2-3 times a decade to cast a mail in ballot?

This isn't some small marginalized group, it's nearly 40 percent of the voting population. I mean, I just think that if you can't do the bare minimum civic duty for your country because you are not excited enough for the candidate, it says a lot about your character.

And voter accessibility is easier than ever, this was demonstrated by the fact that millions of more people voted in the previous election. Mail in, drop boxes, early voting, etc are more and more available. In 2020, 72% of the votes cast were done either early, by mail, or absentee.

North Carolina, a red state, has online voting for blind or otherwise disabled people, mail in ballots, weeks of early voting, absentees voting, on site voter registration, automatic registration with the DMV, etc, had 400k MORE eligible voters and 200k less ballots cast than 2020.

Absentee ballots are mailed out months in advance, meaning you have months to mark the form and send it back.

I mean, I just fundamentally disagree, I think that people who don't vote, generally don't care, there are so many resources available, and saying that it's some individual persons (Harris) fault for 90 million people failing to do their job, is just dumb.

The actual reality, is that most people are inconsistent voters and they just can't be bothered most of the time.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago

The fact that you think voting only takes an hour is proof that you have a highly privledged view of elections.

Secondly, I repeat, by turning your hatred towards disaffected victims of the oppressive system we live in, rather than the perpetuants of the system and the system itself, is a lost cause. What's your goal? To get one or two more people to vote? Why not get the Democrats to actually run on popular policy, encouraging tens of millions more to vote? By failing to analyze problems correctly, you fail to come up with solutions.

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