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submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by alan@feddit.org to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

Immich is an amazing piece of software, but because it holds such personal data I have only ever felt comfortable accessing it via VPN or mTLS. This meant that I could never share any photos, which had been really bugging me.

So I built a self-hosted app, Immich Public Proxy, which allows you to share individual files or full galleries to the public without ever exposing your Immich instance. This uses Immich's existing sharing functionality, so other than the initial configuration everything else is handled within Immich.

Why not just expose Immich publicly with Traefik / Caddy / etc?

To share from Immich, you need to allow public access to your /api/ path, which opens you up to potential vulnerabilities. It's up to you whether you are comfortable with that in your threat model.

This proxy provides a barrier of security between the public and Immich. It doesn’t forward traffic to Immich, it validates incoming requests and responds only to valid requests without needing privileged access to Immich.

Demo

You can see a live demo here, which is serving a gallery straight out of my own Immich instance.

Features

  • Supports sharing photos and videos.
  • Supports password-protected shares.
  • Creating and managing shares happens through Immich as normal, so there's no change to your workflow.

Install

Setup takes about 30 seconds:

  1. Take a copy of the docker-compose.yml file and change the address for your Immich instance.

  2. Start the container: docker-compose up -d

  3. Set the "External domain" in your Immich Server Settings to be whatever domain you use to publicly serve Immich Public Proxy. Now whenever you share an image or gallery through Immich, it will automatically create the correct public path for you.

For more detail on the steps, see the docs on Github.

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[-] alan@feddit.org 30 points 1 week ago

I’m “exposing” my own server either way!

Put it on a different server then. It prevents your Immich server from ever needing to be exposed publicly. That's the entire point.

This is stupid.

You seem to understand neither security nor privacy.

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

Put it on a different server then. It prevents your Immich server from ever needing to be exposed publicly. That’s the entire point.

This is stupid.

Repeat after me - proxies are not used for security.

This is a cargo-cult believe in this community. There's a weird sense that it's "dirty" to have a server exposed "directly" to the internet. But if I put it behind something else that forwards traffic to the server then that's somehow safe!

Security is something you do not something you have. The false sense of security with proxy bullshit like this crappy project is not giving you anything. You're taking a well supported community project (immich) and installing another app in front of it which appears to be some dude's personal project and telling me that is more secure. As though that project is better written?

Install immich. Forward ports to it (or proxy it with nginx if needed for hostname routing (but don't expect this to be more secure)), and keep it up to date and use good passwords.

[-] doeknius_gloek@discuss.tchncs.de 30 points 1 week ago

Security is something you do

Like by reducing the attack surface on internal APIs?

I don't even necessarily disagree with you, everybody has to decide themselves if this app offers enough upsides to be worth the downsides.

That being said, instantly calling OP stupid and their project crappy is just not the way to get your point across and in general considered a dick move.

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

Like by reducing the attack surface on internal APIs?

This is my other favorite term the community has picked up and uses like it's a mic drop without understanding it.

It's a proxy my friend. It forwards requests to the other server. And you've added an untested personal project in front of it.

But wait! You don't want to just expose your immich proxy to the internet do you? I'll write DavesAwesomeProxy that you can put in front of that proxy! Will it be secure? Maybe. Will I support it? What's with all the questions!

[-] alan@feddit.org 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It forwards requests to the other server.

No raw requests are passed to Immich. All incoming data is validated / sanitized. Requests are only made to specific whitelisted API endpoints. I don't know why you're so angry 🤷

[-] alan@feddit.org 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

some dude’s personal project

Yes, it's my project.

if I put it behind something else that forwards traffic to the server then that’s somehow safe!

It doesn't "forward traffic", it validates traffic and answers only valid requests, without needing privileged access to Immich. I think you are confusing the word "proxy" with meaning something like Traefik.

telling me that is more secure. As though that project is better written?

Yes, it's more secure to use this than exposing Immich. No it's not "better written" than Immich; it fulfills a completely different purpose.

It's 400 lines of code in total, feel free to review it and tell me any flaws, oh mighty security expert.

[-] betweenthesixes@lemm.ee 16 points 1 week ago

Repeat after me - proxies are not used for security.

If you believe this, you are extremely uninformed at best. Proxies are routinely used for security in situations like this and are used to secure many of the apps that you use on the public internet today.

Thank you OP for creating this app! Please ignore any negativity from ignorant detractors.

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

Proxies are not used for security by anyone but morons. Firewalls, WAFs, etc. all provide some sort of benefit. What is this application doing that is of use? Just "not exposing your server directly"? Well, it is being exposed directly now - so it's a very secure application written by a security professional then? Or should I put it behind another proxy just to be sure? Maybe 7 proxies are enough?

OP is well meaning - but this was a waste of time for anyone else to use. It's a solution in search of a problem.

[-] ShortN0te@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 week ago

You have clearly not understood what it does. It basically acts as a basic WAF by blocking the access to various paths that are required by the default sharing feature but not by this "proxy".

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