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epic ratio rule
(lemmy.cafe)
Lemmy is a worse platform for women than Reddit was EDIT this link is an OLD POST that contains my thesis on the state of lemmy and is not the context of the much more recent comment in the screenshot. sorry for any confusion caused by this juxtaposition, my main goal with having this linked is to expose how nothing has improved
No, I think the reply is appropriate enough. The comment you quoted is an extremely mysogynist take, falling right into the incel perspective of "if women refuse to have sex with men, they are inconsiderate."
The value of women is not just for men to have sex with them—they have the agency to decide for themselves what they want to do with their own bodies. This is basically what the downvoted post is saying. Women choosing not to put out doesn't "radicalize" incels any more than women showing a bit of skin creates rapists.
If there are men who can't get over the fact that some women might choose not to have sex with them for political reasons, they can read Lysistrata or something.
That doesn't seem to apply to what you quoted, however. The section you quoted framed sex as a transactional obligation on the part of women, asserting that if women refuse to sleep with men who support their views and rights, they'll become radicalized and turn into incels.
The logic in that statement is that men who care about women are entitled to a bit of quid pro quo, "I support your rights as a person and you have sex with me" even though that is entirely antithetical to the point.
If men care about women's issues, then they are inherently fine with women making a conscious decision to not have sex. Otherwise, it means they don't really care about women's issues, and likely never did.
No one is shaming women for choosing to have sex with people they want to have sex with, just that the decision of those women who wish to stop having sex be respected.
Hmm, I guess I can see why you would read it that way, but I think we can agree to disagree: I read it as the second paragraph of the comment I linked to. 4B is about not having sexual relations with anyone, including those who one would otherwise desire.