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Big oil quietly walks back on climate pledges as global heat records tumble (www.theguardian.com)

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[-] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

Communist means ideologically communist. Because "countries which have built communism according to Marx with stateless society with common ownership of means of production" etc are like Zeno's Achilles and turtle metaphor. Only I don't get why would anybody use such an unreachable by design criterion to judge on the effect of communist ideology on societies.

[-] agarorn@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Well in the examples I gave only in north Korea everything is controlled by the state. So your point is irrelevant.

[-] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

There are gradations between "everything" and "critical mass" as well, and part of it is "private" property which can be easily confiscated or in some other way transferred to a more loyal person, just the system has mechanisms to prevent killing the golden goose (for now, it seems comrade Xi has some ideas with potential to affect this).

I mean, if you consider Nazi Germany capitalist, then China is too.

Anyway, it all depends on terminology. Some people think that "war communism" is the closest to real communism the world has seen. For others it's not communism at all, because they don't forget that "stateless" part. While Makhno's republic is that. For others the Nordic countries are almost like communism.

Just like with Christianity, with Communism we should trace all branches of the tree, not just discard everything we don't like as schismatic.