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submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by Dwayne_Elizondo_Mountain_Dew_Camacho@sh.itjust.works to c/linux@sh.itjust.works

I hope it’s OK to post to this community to ask for help. If not, just let me know where I should go.

The Initial Situation

I have an old Aspire E1-472G with a GeForce 820M, which I’d like to give to my son who loves to play “There’s poop in my soup.” The laptop was fine with Mint for Office stuff and browsing, but I couldn’t get it to use the 820m to play games: it would always default to the onboard video card. I tried switching to the Nvidia drivers but all I got was a black screen. So I decided to format and install a gaming-friendly version of Linux. I opted for Pop!_OS, since it looked like it may solve my 820 m problem.

The Problem

I created a Pop!_OS boot USB drive, installation went fine, used defaults for partitions, rebooted, took out the USB drive and… “Operating System not found.”

What I did

Checked boot order: SSD drive is #2, right after USB.

Boot mode: Legacy Bios, but I’ve tried UEFI also–same result.

Tried reinstalling: same

Looked for help online: After reading dozens of posts and their solutions, I can’t get it to work but I suspect it has something to do with Boot Mode or the partitioning, but I can’t figure it out.

My level of skill

I come from Windows and I have installed Mint a few times. I can copy paste stuff in the Terminal, but really, I’m pretty much useless besides that.

What I Hope to Get

I’m not set on POP_OS so if there’s an easier solution, I’m all ears. I think I’m just overlooking something that would be obvious to a more experienced person.

Thanks for your help!

** Update 2024-11-03**

I had some time this morning to tinker with it.

Things I've tried

1-Manually change boot order/put ssd first in BIOS: same result

2-Tried reinstalling while manually doing the partition: same result.

3-While rebooting with boot key, I checked the files on the SSD: I'm no expert, but everything seems there. bin, boot, dev, etc, home, ...

4-Currently downloading the boot repair disk octopus_ink recommendend. It's 2.6G so it's taking a while.

Options I got left

1-Update the bios: seems easier said than done. I'm gonna have to read up on that. 2-Probably my next move: just give up and try another distro! I'm looking at Nobara. https://nobaraproject.org/

Thanks for the suggestions. If ever I get it to work, I'll report back.

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[-] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Are you able to try selecting the disk to boot from using the BIOS/UEFi menu, instead of relying on the boot order? I'd try that and see if one of the options boots into Pop!_OS, then make sure that option is first in order (or 2nd behind booting to USB)

I tried changing the order in Bios and switching order manually with F12. Same result. : (

[-] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

EDIT try this first: Wait, are you still getting an "Operating system not found" like error or just a totally black screen? If totally black screen, maybe it is just the graphical environment that isn't working? When you get to the black screen, give it a minute or so, then hold alt (or ctrl+alt at the same time, try it both ways) while tapping F1-F12 keys one by one and see if you get a TTY login prompt? You may also have to hold an Fn button on the keyboard to change the F1-F12 keys from media-mode to function-mode depending on your BIOS settings. If you do get the prompt, login with your user (nothing will change on screen while you type the password, which can be confusing if you are expecting to see asterisks or something, apologies if you know this but I don't know what Linux experience you have) and then try the commands xinit or startx and you will likely get the opportunity to see an error that is occurring?

EDIT, the following was assuming "Operating system not found" like error:

Hmm... this is weird. I would say try changing the boot mode between UEFI vs legacy BIOS, but I see that you already have...

If possible, can you boot to live Linux USB and use the fdisk/gparted tool to inspect the partitions? If you can post a pic/screenshot of the partition info that might give us some more info.

What steps did you take to manually parition? Is the boot partition formatted with an EXT4 file system?

Updating your BIOS is probably going to be a pain without a Windows system to do it from, because you are at the mercy of laptop manufacturers here, unless it supports updating from a USB

If you are considering a totally different OS (I think this is worth a shot, at least for sanity), I'd recommend trying a Fedora 41 install. EDIT: It looks like Nobara is a better candidate to try instead of plain Fedora, because it comes with proprietary NVIDIA driver, which may help your issue if it is a problem in the graphical environment.

[-] Dwayne_Elizondo_Mountain_Dew_Camacho@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Sorry this is taking so long between replies. You know, life stuff...

So I'm still at "Operating system not found”.

Here are screen captures taken with the Pop_OS live usb. First is from Disks, second is GParted.

Am I crazy or there's no boot partition? At this point I'm ready to switch to another distro but I'm still conviced I'm doing something incredibly stupid and I might learn something.

[-] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

You're not crazy, I don't see a boot partition either. So, that makes sense that it cannot boot. I think the simplest path forward will be to try installing another distro, and disconnect all hard drives besides the one you want to install to, if there are multiple drives in the machine.

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