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[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

statutory damages in an amount of not less than $10,000

Fuck, its a minimum fine of $10,000 every time you have to pee. Wtf

[-] iamtrashman1312@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago

Out of curiosity what's their fine for regular public indecency, like, urinating in an alley? I'd imagine it's literally cheaper for a trans person there to piss on the side of city hall than it is a regular god damn restroom

What an awful little shitville

[-] vxx@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

Maybe that's their plan, to get trans people on the sex offender list because they peed in public.

I think it's illegal in some countries to deny someone to pee.

[-] tb_@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

The penalties for peeing in public in Texas can range from fines of up to $500 to facing charges that might lead to community service or even a short jail term, depending on the circumstances and whether other offenses are involved. The variance in these penalties is due to factors such as the offender’s intent, location of the act, prior offenses, and any additional disruptive behavior associated with the incident.

https://1800lionlaw.com/is-peeing-in-public-illegal-in-texas/

That said, baring yourself in some alley may expose you to dangers other than the cops.

[-] Jumpingspiderman@reddthat.com 3 points 3 weeks ago

When I lived in Texas, urinating in public was a potential misdemeanor crime, but was also a affirmative defense against public indecency. One of the few statutes in Texas that actually made sense.

[-] roguetrick@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Actually the fine is $500 at most. This is a guaranteed civil court payout, on top of any "damages" someone may receive. And since this is civil court, you operate on preponderance of evidence instead of beyond a reasonable doubt.

This sort of legislated punitive damages is what should be happening for instances of wage theft, but instead we're using it for harassing trans people while wage theft tends to have few if any punitive damages and mostly amounts to "ok, now give them their paycheck."

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 3 weeks ago

Thats the bounty pay out, not the fine collected. Right?

[-] roguetrick@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

The fine is a criminal statute of $500. The bounty is a civil statute of $10,000.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

For a non US person, who's paying the ten grands?

[-] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

The bounty itself reads that any person besides local and state government officials may sue a trans person using the restroom that aligns with their gender, with payments including “injunctive relief sufficient to prevent the defendant from violating the provisions of this ordinance; nominal and compensatory damages if the plaintiff has suffered injury or harm from the defendant’s conduct; statutory damages in an amount of not less than $10,000 for each violation of this ordinance; and court costs and reasonable attorney’s fees.”

As with the abortion bans, the """criminal""" themselves has to pay.

[-] roguetrick@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

So it's the person you're suing. Essentially, it's a civil case like a car accident, but you're suing someone for going into the wrong bathroom. You're guaranteed a $10k judgement but can get more for "emotional damages" if the judge is a particular bigot.

Edit: it also means you can blackmail a trans person for a settlement and that's legal too, since the threat isn't so much the criminal fine but the civil one

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