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OK, its just a deer, but the future is clear. These things are going to start kill people left and right.

How many kids is Elon going to kill before we shut him down? Whats the number of children we're going to allow Elon to murder every year?

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[-] themurphy@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 months ago

I hate Tesla as much as the next guy in here.

But I learned at my driving lessons that you shouldn't hit the breaks for animals running into your lane, because it can result in a car crash that's way worse. (think truck behind you with a much longer break length.)

Don't know if there's different rules.

[-] BakerBagel@midwest.social 22 points 3 months ago

You absolutely need to hit the brakes, but don't swerve. A deer weighs over 200lbs and will likely crash into your windshield if you hit it head on. You need to safely loose as much speed as you can because even a side hit on the deer is likely to wreck your axel and prevent you from driving.

[-] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Exactly. I know somebody who died when a deer came through the windshield…

[-] themurphy@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago

Yeah, I heard about people dying in crashes with deers also. I just remembered we were taught this, and I just thought it might be programmed to ignore animals because of this.

But it's probably wrong, and as someone pointed out, it seems like it didn't even see the deer.

[-] Windex007@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago

If you watch the video, the deer was standing on a strip of off coloured pavement, and also had about the same length as the dotted line. Not sure how much colour information comes through at night on those cameras.

The point here isn't actually "should it have stopped for the deer" , it's "if the system can't even see the deer, how could it be expected to distinguish between a deer and a child?"

The calculus changes incredibly between a deer and a child.

[-] fluxx@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Agree, it didn't do anything to avoid the obstacle. A human could probably see it as an obstacle and try to swerve to the side, albeit not knowing what it is. Not saying it's possible to avoid, but some reaction would be made.

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

You learned wrong if you think that is a universal rule for all animals.

You might have been told that for small animals like squirrels, but that is more about not overreacting. You should absolutely brake for a deer, whether or not you are being tailgated, just like you would brake for any large object on the road.

Hitting a deer at speed is going to cause far more problems for you AND the people behind you than trying to not hit the deer.

[-] themurphy@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago

You're probably right. I encountered maybe 2 or 3 deers running out in front of my car so far, and I hit the breaks every time in pure reflex anyway.

Dodged them so far, but damn I'm scared I might hit one at some point.

[-] pandapoo@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago

That's why humans have brains, for situational awareness.

And it's less about not breaking for an animal, as it is about not wildly swerving.

Also, you should probably revise your thinking on this before you visit any states that have large animals like Moose on the roads. Because if you plow into one with a car, it can easily kill you when it crushes you after impact.

[-] TBi@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

~~Also on motorbikes you are more stable at high speed so better to hit a dog at speed than slow down which could lead to person behind you hitting you or you crashing.~~ Ok seems I was wrong.

[-] BakerBagel@midwest.social 12 points 3 months ago

Absolutely not true. No amount of speed is going to keep you safe if you strike an animal on a bike. You're better off slowing down so that you have less momentum when you wreck. Drivers should be giving you enough space (even though they rarely do). A deer weighs more than a grown man and will kill you if you hit it at highway speed. A dog will take out your front wheel and cause you to wreck whether you hit it at 15mph or 80mph.

[-] XeroxCool@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

A deer will shatter your nose fairing and snap handlebars at speed. The next object to catch the deer is your head and torso. No, the burly batwing fairings on a full dresser cruiser are not any stronger than the nose cone on a sport bike when it comes to a 200lb meat bag approaching at 70mph.

So many myths perpetuated by people who bucked classes and PRACTICE in favor of their uncle's advice.

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