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submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/anarchism@lemmy.dbzer0.com

I had a discussion with @Cowbee@lemmy.ml recently where they insisted that Anarchists on Hexbear accept Lenin's analysis of Imperialism and therefore all support "Actual Existing Socialist" states such as Cuba, USSR and I guess North Korea as well.

In fact, they argued it's the reason most anarchists of Hexbear don't like to discuss anarchism away from hexbear, explicitly because outside anarchists do not support "AES".

So I'm curious to see what your thoughts are on this. If you're an anarchist who supports "AES" how do you square this support with the conflict these states have with anarchist theory on hierarchy?

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[-] FundMECFSResearch 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I get what you’re saying but this is how my brain works:

In the current state of affairs, I support the Ukrainian state in it’s defence against Russian imperialism. However, ideally, in my view, all states, including the Ukrainian one should not exist.

[-] Comrade_Spood@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

Then my question is why support the state at all?

[-] FundMECFSResearch 1 points 3 weeks ago

I support it in it’s defence. I don’t support it in itself if you get what I mean.

[-] Comrade_Spood@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

I feel like simply supporting the people in their defense accomplishes the same thing without also supporting nation states in any way.

[-] FundMECFSResearch 1 points 3 weeks ago

I guess it depends how you phrase it.

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