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[-] oce@jlai.lu 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Agreed with your reasons, but she made points I have never heard about that I found interesting, like disappearing of some femininity aspects to awkwardly try to avoid sexism accusations. I wanted to share a point of view that I think is rarely shared in gaming communities.
I don't follow YouTube drama much, so I don't know who Asmongold is.

The reason I ended up there is because I recently started playing Oblivion, and saw her videos mentioned.

[-] ada 67 points 3 months ago

she made points I have never heard about that I found interesting, like disappearing of some femininity aspects to awkwardly try to avoid sexism accusations.

These are very common talking points of gamer gate bigots. It's a giant red flag, because the people who talk about it are bigots

[-] oce@jlai.lu 7 points 3 months ago

I think you may have a a specific experience that makes this very common for you. I personally don't interact with those subjects much, so I didn't know. Thank you for sharing your view.

[-] ada 38 points 3 months ago

Gamergate is not a very specific circumstance. It was a widespread harassment campaign involving the entire industry. This is a follow on from that movement, and any game that releases a female protagonist that isn't soft and demure gets active push back from this group.

[-] weker01@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago

Pretty prejudiced take. Like in the literal sense of the word.

[-] ada 21 points 3 months ago

She shouts out a racist who was banned from twitch for bigotry, so I'd say it's pretty spot on as a red flag.

[-] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 28 points 3 months ago

disappearing of some femininity aspects

Can you describe some of those aspects that have been disappearing?

[-] telllos@lemmy.world 35 points 3 months ago

Reminds me that time gamer discovered girls have body hair because of Aloy.

[-] weker01@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago

She as a woman of course also has no idea what femininity is and that women have body hair.

[-] oce@jlai.lu 6 points 3 months ago

I think it's better to check the source by yourself since it appears to be more sensitive than I expected.

[-] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 10 points 3 months ago

Idk, it's sounds like you agreed with this point and I'm curious what your opinion was about it.

[-] oce@jlai.lu 3 points 3 months ago

As I said, most of the points made in the video I didn't think about before, and I find it interesting to know other reasons why people play old games or are patient gamers, that's why I shared it here. I think the person is simply expressing her taste, maybe it's traditional stereotypes for some people, but you can't decide of your tastes, I didn't find it hateful. Now people who defend trans people found this video offensive, which I was miles away from expecting, and many people decided to jump on this wagon and decided this is a hateful post based on prior comments without watching the video. Also as I said other places, I am not knowledgeable in trans defense, so maybe it's possible they are correct.

[-] ada 8 points 3 months ago

You're the only person to mention trans people in this thread. It's got nothing to do with trans folk...

decided this is a hateful post based on prior comments without watching the video.

I had to watch the video to see her dog whistle.

And the whole thing about red flag/dog whistle comments is that they're designed to seem like nothing to people who don't recognise them. You not recognising a dog whistle doesn't mean it isn't one...

The fact that she shouts out another steamer that was banned from twitch for bigotry isn't a co-incidence. It's a red flag for a reason

[-] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 5 points 3 months ago

Still waiting for the lost feminity you mentioned about.

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