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Only socialism and communism try to ensure everyone survives. This isn’t really an attack on capitalism. This is also the reason we have nationalism, racism etc, no?
In any case, technology and efficiency mean we could support more people being alive and with better lives if we really did want to. Plus there’s the potential of mining and colonisation of space. We’ve barely scratched the surface. Vertical farms might be the future.
The pitfalls of our current systems preclude us getting to the point of utilizing space to any meaningful extent. Better to forgo the hypothetical Star Trek romanticized fiction and just fix what we have here; then maybe we can think about that stuff.
At this stage, the mere mention of any such possibility is a distraction from the gravity of the situations we face. It's a mere tool to keep the apple cart going, while people are literally dying from our own collective hubris.
As old Star Wars EU fan, I agree.
Jokes aside, yes, anything done in space is for now much less efficient.
But that wouldn’t generate as much profit, see! You gotta have Scarcity, otherwise ya cannot jack up the prices so high!
also: permaculture regenerative agriculture ecological stability dynamic equilibrium etc
also, news: India’s regenerative water permaculture development
You're wrong. Socialism objectively provides a higher physical quality of life to its citizens when compared to capitalism at an equal level of development.
The notion that there are no corruption issues in capitalist countries is also bizarre. Are you perpetually anglo-brained in that you only think of the western imperial core when you think about "capitalism"? You are ignoring most of the world.
20million people die to easily preventable things under capitalism around the world every single year. Hunger, clean water, curable disease. Things that we can solve immediately with the resources we already have simply by having leadership that decides to do so. The fact you think this is reasonable is frankly disgusting.
This is ideological illiteracy. Socialism is the transitionary stage between capitalism and communism. All communist states have been socialist states because no society has progressed far enough to reach communism.
The implication was that it is worse in communist countries.
Take China out of that data and it practically flatlines. It has not improved in capitalist countries, China is responsible for almost all of it.
If that were fucking possible under capitalism it would ALREADY BE HAPPENING. The parties presented to you under BOURGEOISE DEMOCRACY are BOURGEOISE parties. They are not parties of the people, they are parties of the bourgeoisie and the entire system is designed to maintain that. When your only options are parties of the bourgeoisie the outcome is that the winner represents the bourgeoisie.
The only solution to this problem is to overthrow the existing bourgeoise democracy and install a proletarian democracy instead, the result of which being that all the parties under the proletarian democracy represent the proletariat. This is what a socialist state is institutionally. The antithesis of a capitalist state institutionally.
Two sides of the same coin. Socialists all understand that socialism is the transitionary stage between capitalism and communism.
Prove it. I cited research that shows you are wrong, you're simply ignoring the facts.
Wow one data point! Incredible. Now do deaths from starvation, lack of clean water and curable disease. 20million die per year.
Holy shit your argument is "I don't want these people to live so it's ok". Colonial brained monster.
Does not exist in practice. Democratic socialists are people that believe that socialism can be achieved by winning within bourgeoise-democracy without revolution. They have been murdered by the bourgeoisie whenever they come close to that. I strongly suggest reading the Jakarta Method and also listening to Allende's last words broadcast via radio while the airforce were bombing the bridges as the US-backed coup raged around him.
Holy fucking shit you just called the US "democratic socialism"? We're done here. You are uneducated and completely out of your fucking mind and have no idea what any of these words mean. I'm not wasting my time anymore.
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Do you think that socialism/communism is not a democratic system?
Just wait till somebody comes and says that not all Communism is Marxism, and quotes Kropotkin or whatever.
Except for the "enemies of the people" and the "bourgeoisie", right?..
WDYM "might", it's already happening, just slowly. Not every modern city has lots of skyscrapers.
Very limited. Though I like the idea of toroid stations with mirrors in L points, like Stanford torus, which is IIRC not considered cool now due to being expensive and complex to build.
Maybe not toroid, but asymmetric rotating pendulum-like thing, with another end being ballast. For gravity.
Anyway, you don't realize how much less efficiency existing on Earth requires. It's really easier to fix our shit here before going into space. Space is so cool that it's worth the effort, but real colonization doesn't make sense economically yet.