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submitted 2 months ago by ptz@dubvee.org to c/fuck_ai@lemmy.world

A Massachusetts couple claims that their son's high school attempted to derail his future by giving him detention and a bad grade on an assignment he wrote using generative AI.

An old and powerful force has entered the fraught debate over generative AI in schools: litigious parents angry that their child may not be accepted into a prestigious university.

In what appears to be the first case of its kind, at least in Massachusetts, a couple has sued their local school district after it disciplined their son for using generative AI tools on a history project. Dale and Jennifer Harris allege that the Hingham High School student handbook did not explicitly prohibit the use of AI to complete assignments and that the punishment visited upon their son for using an AI tool—he received Saturday detention and a grade of 65 out of 100 on the assignment—has harmed his chances of getting into Stanford University and other elite schools.

Yeah, I'm 100% with the school on this one.

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[-] ilost7489@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Perhaps it is also that LLMs are horrible at making any kind of argument and probably wrote a shit paper, never mind the plagiarism? Frankly a 65 is a high mark for doing something like this

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Perhaps it is also that LLMs are horrible at making any kind of argument and probably wrote a shit paper

They tend to be excellent at churning out pages of high school tier writing prompt slop. The precise grammar, the easy-to-read formatting, and the automatic citations make them the ideal tool for generating this kind of beginners writing.

The problem with LLMs in a writing class is the same as calculators in a math class. Its trivial to learn how to use, but doesn't instill the background into how and why it produces these outputs. It's a literal black box.

The purpose of churning out term papers isn't to provide useful information to your grade-school teacher. It is to practice the art of research, analysis, condensation, and presentation. You're supposed to create shit writing at the early stage of your development. That's part of the learning process. Write bad. Get instruction on how to improve. Write better. Get more instruction. Write good.

Bringing an LLM to a writing class is like bringing a hydraulic press to the gym.

[-] ptz@dubvee.org 5 points 2 months ago

Someone else in the comments said that it's possible (may vary by state / locale) that 65 may be the lowest grade they're allowed to give now. So if that's the case, I suspect the teacher would have given them a 0 if they could.

[-] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago
[-] ptz@dubvee.org 5 points 2 months ago

Yeah, I don't get that at all.

I'm also reporting that secondhand based off another comment, so take it with a grain of salt.

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