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Windows 11 v24H2 and beyond will have Recall installed on every system. Attempting to remove Recall will now break some file explorer features such as tabs.

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[-] match@pawb.social 165 points 1 month ago

it was vastly easier to install linux mint than it is to figure out registry editing or whatever the fuck i'd need to avoid this

[-] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 95 points 1 month ago

Nah, mate, Linux is hard, you need to know what a Wayland is. In comparison, Windows is very simple and lightweight, you only have to run a dozen Powershell scripts and edit the registry weekly to get rid of ads.

[-] Bread@sh.itjust.works 56 points 1 month ago

"Do I look like I know what a Wayland is?"

[-] ilikecoffee@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Had me in the first half, not gonna lie.. "Windows is very simple and lightweight" 😂

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 43 points 1 month ago

And some Windows update would "accidentally" undo that anyways.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 37 points 1 month ago

This is where some Windows shill says "you only need to fix it once!" as if this is your only computer ever, and the only problem you need to fix. And then Windows changes it back to their default in next year's update.

[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 month ago

And as if it's entirely reasonable for the maker of your OS to intentionally work against your ability to control your own hardware and what runs on it.

[-] kittenzrulz123 36 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The difference between Linux and Windows is on Linux you're working with the operating system to make modifications and taking advantage of its vast resources (extensive wikis on major distos, terminal auto completion with fish and zsh, preconfigured defaults when installing through the package manager, etc). Meanwhile on Windows you're actively working against the system in order to disable unwanted features like AI and telemetry.

(Also I would recommend looking into Debian, the software may be a tad bit old but its the most stable distribution)

[-] pixelscript@lemm.ee 28 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Happy Debian daily driver here. I would never ever recommend raw Debian to a garden variety would-be Linux convert.

If you think something like Debian is something a Linux illiterate can just pick up and start using proficiently, you're severely out of touch with how most computer users actually think about their machines. If you even so much as know the name of your file explorer program, you're in a completely different league.

Debian prides itself on being a lean, no bloat, and stable environment made only of truly free software (with the ability to opt-in to nonfree software). To people like us, that's a clean, blank canvas on a rock-solid, reliable foundation that won't enshittify. But to most people, it's an austere, outdated, and unfashionable wasteland full of flaky, ugly tooling.

Debian can be polished to any standard one likes, but you're expected to do it yourself. Most people just aren't in the game to play it like that. Debian saddles questions of choice almost no one is asking, or frankly, even knew was a question that was ask*-able*. Mandatory customizeability is a flaw, not a feature.

I am absolutely team "just steer them to Mint". All the goodness of Debian snuck into their OS like medicine in a kid's dessert, wrapped up in something they might actually find palatable. Debian itself can be saved for when, or shall I say if, the user eventually goes poking under the hood to discover how the machine actually ticks.

[-] Lobreeze@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Debian is probably one of the worst choices for someone looking to try Linux, especially for gaming.

Nothing better than setting everything up only to find you can't install some new thing because your xyz is too old

[-] ITGuyLevi@programming.dev 4 points 1 month ago

Debian is always my first choice, but I'm not playing the newest stuff (Far Cry 5/7D2D/Ark/etc), while it hasn't been 'smooth sailing', I haven't found anything that just refuses to play.

[-] Omniforous@mander.xyz 3 points 1 month ago

I was on Debian Sid for a year or 2 and gaming was working perfectly until I did an update that uninstalled my GUI and WiFi drivers. I'm on Mint now and it's been smooth sailing so far

[-] kittenzrulz123 1 points 1 month ago

Anyone whos new to gaming on Linux is probably using the Steam Flatpak, also stability is more important for newer users then a few utilities that power users (like myself) enjoy.

[-] Zink@programming.dev 14 points 1 month ago

I absolutely love Linux mint. I use it daily for dev work, but I’d also install it on my mother’s old laptop so she could keep using Facebook on it or whatever.

[-] mack7400@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Same. First distro that was actually painless 10 years ago, and I haven't looked back.

[-] TheLastOfHisName@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I've been very impressed by the out-of-the-box experience with Pop!_OS. My Steam games work, and I have Elder Scrolls Online running through Lutris.

So far, everything just works.

[-] Zink@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago

I have to admit that one does look really good too.

I have a couple of old windows machines at home, so eventually (maybe as a winter project) I’ll need to decide if I want to try some other distros long term.

[-] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 11 points 1 month ago
[-] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 11 points 1 month ago
[-] match@pawb.social 6 points 1 month ago

yes thank you!

[-] ilikecoffee@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I thought Cinnamon and Mate were different things... /s

[-] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 3 points 1 month ago

For the people who doesn't get it (I notice your /s, so you do get it): It's has a hidden joke. Mate can also mean "friend". So "Welcome to Linux Mint mate!" can mean two things at the same time. Hence my reply: "Maybe Cinnamon mate!", where "Cinnamon" refers to "Linux Mint Cinnamon", but mate just refers to friend/buddy. But Mate can also mean MATE, a classic desktop environment for Linux Mint.

[-] ilikecoffee@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Oh haha, didn't realise that pun was intended... But yeah thats right :)

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