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Well, this just got darker.

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[-] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 249 points 1 week ago

This isn't surprising, it's inevitable.

If you folks knew how common pedophilic fantasies are amongst the general public, you would be shocked. Just look to cultures like Japan and Russia that don't strongly condemn such things, and you'll find it's about 15% of the population. It's only less in the West because of the near homicidal stigma attached to it that makes people vigorously hide that part of themselves.

Fortunately, this also shows that the vast majority of those people don't offend.

We also tend to define pedophilia as "anything sexual involving a minor", while reacting to it as if it means "violent rape of a toddler", so no shit, we sexualize youth all the time, the 18 year mark is a legal and social formality, not a hard limit on human attraction. Adults will find themselves attracted to teens, and they won't reveal that because who the fuck ever would?

If anything, the issue isn't that people have these attractions and fantasies, it is that some portion of those people can't separate fantasy from reality and are willing to hurt a child to get what they want, or they are sociopaths that consume child porn without feeling disgust for witnessing horrific child abuse.

[-] emax_gomax@lemmy.world 66 points 1 week ago

I think the common incest fantasy in the west isn't too far removed from this too. Like all the actors are above age minimums but they pretend to be step kids or babysitters like these roles aren't commonly associated with children and older teens. It's clearly a form of deflection IMO.

[-] Vespair@lemm.ee 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Personally I think the rise in incest porn has to do with the rise in isolationism. Lots of people, young men especially, are going out less and less and having more of their social interactions online. As a consequence of this, for a number of these men, the vast majority of the real life female interactions they get are from women in their own homes. And biology has a way of adapting, so I think a lot these men are getting confusing feelings about people in their own homes due largely just to lack of outside exposure to women.

[-] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

Could also be that those are the only porns with even a half assed attempt at a plot instead of just opening with a ground and pound

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago

As the other comment implies, that's just the easiest plot to shove porn into. I don't think that many people are watching it for the plot, it just happens to be there. Like, people aren't fantasizing about becoming a plumber to fuck women instead of being paid, for example. It's just a lazy plot because they need to give some reason for the scene.

[-] celsiustimeline@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 week ago

"People are gonna be pedophiles whether we like it or not, so why are we bothering to do anything to highlight predatory behavior?"

If anything, the issue isn’t that people have these attractions and fantasies, it is that some portion of those people can’t separate fantasy from reality and are willing to hurt a child to get what they want, or they are sociopaths that consume child porn without feeling disgust for witnessing horrific child abuse.

Correct. That's what the issue is. We should definitely make sure that we aren't encouraging any kind of behavior that perpetuates the demand for CSAM.

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