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This is correct. If a painter uses AI to generate a concept and composition, then does a classical oil painting of it on canvass they can claim right to the image of the oil painting.
It's no different than an artist painting a public park or forest. They can't copyright that location, but they can copyright the painting of that location.
So why can't he copy right the prompt which created it? Obviously not being 100% cereal about this specific scenario but in the early days of GPT4 I fed it fucking dissertation length prompt threads writing ridiculously niche and in depth scripted functions. I don't know how to code but used a tool to create something extremely useful for my job. Some of the project took weeks to fully put together.
So what Im really asking is, why would it matter if I used cnc lathes to make something id want copywrited/patented or if I use a LLM to make it? Should it be any less protected because it's taking the "muscle" or "legwork" out of it? Should engineers only design prototypes destine for copywrite/TM/R/patent office if the prototype can be made on manual machines? Again, I kinda understand I went over the top with this but I am fascinated with how the fuck people are guna come up with regulatory frameworks to define the modern age of intellectual property and all the TM/C/R/P drama to follow.
Edit: To expand, the shit I have made using GPT having limited but interested experience with IT work also didnt stike me as anything marketable until I got feedback from vendors and customers I gave it to but from reps that didn't know I made it. It's not the point of me asking I just thought itd help anyone who is guna respond to see that my questions are coming from more of a manufacturing a tool type of understanding rather than the AI toookurjerbs from the suffering artist or musician type of understanding.
I never meant to imply that things, or parts of things created with an AI shouldn't be able to be copyrighted, but as the law is now that's how it works. Things might change in the future to more directly address this, which is what this current case is doing.
As for copyrighting the prompt that could get tricky. For example you can't copyright a title, but you can copyright a literary work.
So if your prompts are that long you should be able to copyright the prompts as literary work, but someone who just types in "brown cat" isn't going to be able to and shouldn't be able to, because copyrighting the concept of a brown cat in general is silly. What about "fat, brown cat.?' Well, someone is going to have think very hard about how long the prompts have to be before they are eligible. That's not even considering the prompt part, just the right to your written concept before it becomes a prompt.
I'm hoping it'll work out fairly eventually. I work in professionally in traditional media so it's not something that effects me, but I do have a basic understanding of copyright laws(as they are) to share.
But I do see your point about it being a tool. Like if my paint brand tried to say I don't have a right to the work I created with their paint I'd be pissed, but that's a lot less complicated(legally speaking) to parse out than AI generated stuff because we don't yet have precedents for that.
Plus all the unethical and exploitive AI scraping that's been going on that no one agreed to has left a lot of artists kinda bitter towards AI... so there's not a lot of sympathy in creative communities towards it's use right now. If they could use it more ethically I think you'd see a shift in attitudes fairly quickly.
I think the logical conclusion of copyrighted prompts would include not just the input prompt but the version number of the program, any settings, the seed, etc. Basically everything you would need to copy that exact image, because all of that together would produce an exact copy.