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[-] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 346 points 2 months ago

It is almost like Elon is a really bad person.

[-] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 120 points 2 months ago

It's one thing to be a capitalistic shitbag, it's another to be a traitor. Governments like capitalistic shitbags

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 32 points 2 months ago

Is it possible to be a traitor when you're a capitalist shitbag?

They only have loyalty to themselves and their bank account. Quite literally the world could burn (due to their business) for all they care.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

People keep making the mistake of thinking the super rich have loyalty to a country.

[-] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago

Most people don't feel loyalty to the country they betray. It isn't a requirement to be a traitor.

[-] index@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 months ago

Seem like governments also love traitors, look at amount of deals and collaborations between starlink and the US government

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starlink#Military_applications

[-] j4yt33@feddit.org 12 points 2 months ago

Some, like Donny, are both. Or the right wing AfD cunts in Germany. Or any other country

[-] Zorque@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Corrupt governments like capitalistic shitbags.

[-] lurch@sh.itjust.works 50 points 2 months ago

they could also have stolen it though. gotta wait what an investigation of the serial numbers finds

[-] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 51 points 2 months ago

They are most likely stolen or imported through a third party.

[-] Martineski@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 2 months ago

Shouldn't they be capable of detecting where the connection is going and disconnect/block it for specific regions or something? I have no clue how any of that stuff works but this one thing feels like it should be the case.

[-] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 41 points 2 months ago

They do, but Ukraine uses Starlink, so they can't really disable usage entirely in the contested areas. They could disable the individual terminals, but that would require knowing which ones the Russians were using in the first place.

[-] takeda@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago

Well, given that they have access to Internet via starlink, all they would have to do is set up a website and list the IDs, then block everything that's not there.

They got me shipment? Add them to the list? No longer own the device? Remove it.

[-] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago

The problem is that not all of those terminals are being purchased by Ukraine, or supplied through official channels. There are tons of equipment being donated from third parties not directly affiliated, including Starlink terminals.

That's great if the Ukraine military were the only users in the region, but they aren't. Regular Starlink service is available in the country, outside military use. Even though the Ukraine military is using it, Starlink is not designed to be a military network. It is a civilian network that just happens to be available and extremely useful in this case, even with the Russian attempts to interfere with signals in the region.

[-] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago

So they would have to have a white-list for Ukraine and a process for getting on the white-list. That doesn't seem that complicated. Somewhat intensive, sure, but a very simple solution. And I would think militarily advantageous equipment would be more controlled in a war zone than normal.

[-] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 2 months ago

The Starlink probably only works once the drone enters Ukraine. Disabling Starlink in that area would cut off the Ukrainian military too. The internet traffic could easily be routed through a VPN in another country, so blocking Russian IP addresses on Starlink wouldn't work either.

[-] IllNess@infosec.pub 8 points 2 months ago

If Starlink is the internet provider, aren't they providing the IP address? If they are how would a VPN trick Starlink since the equipment has to connect to Starlink first?

[-] Martineski@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago

Whitelist/allowlist for this region comes to my mind. But probably some other specific problems would arise from this too. Hmm...

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