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[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

domestic oil and gas production

But oil and gas production is higher today than under Trump?

https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=61545

border security

But border arrests are 3x higher today than under Trump? https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/cbp-enforcement-statistics

Despite the rhetoric, we produced more oil and have had stronger borders over the past 4 years of Biden than the 4 years under Trump.

[-] realcaseyrollins@thelemmy.club 1 points 2 months ago

It's fine that oil and gas production are higher now, I'm sure Trump will take that number even higher.

What I'd like to see when it comes to illegal immigration isn't exactly more arrests, but a stronger border that's harder to get through in the first place. And perhaps some deportations as well, although I tepidly prefer some qualified form of amnesty to deporting every single illegal immigrant.

[-] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago

I saw an interesting stat today that relates to this.

I'm in the EU, and this year for the first time my country spent more money buying Chinese solar panels than it did buying gas from the US, which has traditionally been a big national expense.

Putting it another way: the Chinese are selling us fishing poles, while Trump wants to keep selling us fish. Sure, we'll keep buying fish for a while yet, but not for much longer.

I'm not even considering the climate and all that. It's just a better economic investment.

But sure, you pump up those barrel numbers as high as you can, up until it comes crashing straight into the ground.

As for immigration, sure whatever. Kick out all the immigrants, but be honest and let me know how many people do you personally know that want to spend their life working the fields all day, or spend days at a time out at sea on a trawler, or mowing lawns for pennies on the dollar.

Because as a dev, I really enjoy my air conditioning and nice comfy office, and probably make more money than half a dozen of those pesky useless freeloaders combined, so you won't be seeing me doing those jobs anytime soon.

[-] realcaseyrollins@thelemmy.club 1 points 2 months ago

I think exporting oil is good but I was thinking of domestic oil production for the primary purpose of domestic use

[-] capital_sniff@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

We produce more light sweet crude from our oil fields while our refineries are set up to handle more heavy stuff from place like Mexico and Canada. Anyway I believe the bigger issue is refining not raw oil production? Why don't you mention that? Or do you just care about how much black stuff we pull out of the ground?

[-] adespoton@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 months ago

You mean like the bipartisan bill that Trump tanked because it might make the Dems look good?

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

Then why wasn't oil production higher under Trump? He had 4 years.

As to border, the higher arrest list is proof the border is harder to get through now than it was under Trump. Illegal immigrants are being stopped.

As to negotiating, after 4 years why was Putin still in Ukraine? He did nothing. North Korea didn't change policy at all. https://www.reuters.com/article/world/timeline-threats-and-stalemate-one-year-after-trump-last-met-north-koreas-kim-idUSKBN23X09P/

In China, Trump eroded Tawain's safety and got nothing return. https://www.chinafile.com/reporting-opinion/viewpoint/trumps-incredibly-risky-taiwan-policy

He was an international embarrassment in most meetings:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-shoves-prime-minister-of-montenegro/

https://time.com/5325922/donald-trump-handshakes-showdown/

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 2 points 2 months ago

You're expecting facts to work on a Trump supporter? Good luck...

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