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U.S. to decide soon on GM's request to deploy cars without steering wheels::U.S. regulators will soon decide on a petition filed by General Motors' Cruise self-driving technology unit seeking permission to deploy up to 2,500 self-driving vehicles annually without human controls, a top auto safety official said on Wednesday.

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[-] axtualdave@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

From the article, this looks like it's for GM's "Cruise" program, which is already out there in limited scope in a couple cities. It's aself-driving car service limited to a small area of San Francisco and.. I want to say Austin?

They're already operating vehicles that are essentially "self-driving" now. This is about rolling out a new class of vehicle using the same technology, but without the human controls.

I don't know a lot about the service, or what, exactly it does, but I suspect it works well because the area the vehicles operate in is extremely limited and the vehicles can have an incredibly detailed, and up-to-date map of that area. I'd also wager the area selected is free of most obstacles and has only one type of terrain, i.e., "downtown low-speed streets" or similar.

That said, I can't imagine the NTSHA will allow a vehicle on the road without any sort of manual emergency control mechanism in place. Though, it may be very rudimentary, like others have suggested, a joystick and a throttle/brake intended to get the vehicle somewhere safe so people can get out.

[-] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is Level 4 automation, and even it needs a human override. Can't override without a steering wheel.

I think this whole plan is just a gimmick to dangle that carrot in front of the public, fooling them into thinking Level 5 full automation is just around the corner, when it really, really, really isn't.

[-] markr@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

The override system likely exists. It obviously exists now as remote operators can intervene on the current fleet without being present.

[-] bric@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

The human override is done by an employee in a control center, not by the passengers. They can and do override without using the steering wheel, and that's never going to change. The steering wheels are already obsolete, because passengers aren't even allowed to sit up front or touch the wheel.

This is as level 5 as we're ever going to get.

[-] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

Level 5 cannot have geofencing like this system has.

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