Yeah but i mean if you think about it someone is wrong then. Which means there wouldnt be a reason to debate because you can just compare the two claims and choose the true one. And if what they are debating is subjective then there is no winner.

In a real debate the judges actually keep score based on logical arguments and good examples, typically what’s called matter, manner, and method. This was political theater or maybe a skills test, but not a debate. And pretty much always was for as long as I can remember.