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[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 7 points 1 week ago

Right? If China and Russia are anything to go by, I want none of that revolution. They still have garbage governance even today. I'm convinced a revolution would get us from shit to absolute vile hot diarrhea.
I think I prefer trying to change the diet instead, just to stick to the metaphor.

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

You say that cuz you're comfortable. If you were a serf in Imperial Tsarist Russia you might have a different mindset.

[-] socsa@piefed.social 3 points 1 week ago

This is the difference though. Many modern leftists insist that iterative harm reduction under capitalism is exactly the same level of oppression as being a feudal serf. That's actually the core basis of their thesis - that any capitalism is literally violence against them and therefore justifies violence against others.

Have there been just revolutions in the past? Of course. But overthrowing kings and dictators is quite a bit different than tearing down a society which has both injustice but also a high standard of living. It seems to imagine that only the injustice will be eliminated through violence, which is demonstrably untrue.

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah the problem with your statement here is that we know for a fact that the only thing that stopped capitalism from making people literal serfs is political violence. We had to fight a second Civil War in this country. Literal battles. If it weren't for those you'd be chained to a factory right now. That's the way capitalism will always go. You shouldn't be under misunderstanding that the current level of standard of living has anything to do with capitalism. The Golden Age of capitalism is the Gilded Age.

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