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[-] coolusername@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago

China is good though? At least that ensures they aren't a CIA operation.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 week ago

China bans encryption and doesn't allow you to use anything to thwart surveillance. I can't say I want that in a remote access tool.

[-] refalo@programming.dev 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

China bans encryption

Most confidently wrong statement I have read all year.

[-] devfuuu@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Wait until people find out america bans certain cryptographic things to help them out.

[-] JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

As an american, the amount of people who refuse to accept that American Propaganda exists is staggering. I had an immediate reaction to seeing "China is good though" and I have no way of knowing if it's justified because I've been my told my entire life that China is an evil shithole by American propaganda.

To take it a step further and say "America doesn't have your best interest at heart" is deeply unsettling to the vast majority of Americans who blindly hand away their freedoms in the name of Freedom. Wait until people find out that our country is just like all the ones we're taught to hate

[-] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 4 points 1 week ago

Of course China uses encryption. So an obtuse, direct reading of that statement allows you, correctly, to say the commenter is wrong.

But what the commenter probably meant was “China bans the use of encryption that prevents the Chinese state from reading what is being exchanged” and that is confidently right. I’ve operated teams in China where we had a secret category 1 incident when it was discovered a couple of our devs had set up a VPN between a Chinese and a western service that didn’t go through the official Chinese-state controlled VPN services.

They absolutely do not want data they cannot read.

[-] refalo@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago

Do you have a source for that claim? And what state-controlled VPN services?

[-] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

lol. I AM the source. DM me with your LinkedIn handle, I’ll connect with you to validate my identity and you can tell anybody else watching that the story is legit. I don’t want to spill too many details in public as I don’t want to involve my old company in it.

And in terms of “state controlled VPN” services, it’s not that the Chinese state runs honeypot VPNs for companies (though they most definitely do for their own citizens), but that to have a license to operate a cloud service in China, you have to enforce CSL and that means they get private companies, western too, to do their bidding. If you encrypt data, you’ll get a stern call (as we did).

[-] refalo@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago

LOL so it's completely made up then, as I thought.

[-] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 3 points 1 week ago

I’ve literally given you a way to feel more confident, all you have to take it. But no, you’d rather live in ignorance it seems.

[-] GlennicusM@beehaw.org 9 points 1 week ago

Not really. At this point, you're having to pick between two surveillance states.

[-] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 3 points 1 week ago

or neither, when cloosing open source tools worth their salt. in more and more fields such tools appear, fortunately

[-] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 3 points 1 week ago

in my book they are more of a risk than the USA. The USA already has political influence, for china to do it they need to use more extreme methods, like infiltrating your computer and use it and perhaps you as their tools

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