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[-] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Ah thank you, never seen that mentioned. That makes it even more awesome for solar system exploration! The article mentioned expanding to much larger designs too.

PS: Now I wonder if assembling these solar sails with lightweight girders in orbit on a space station would be worth it. The spooling mechanism is awesome but if you could just send it up dis-assembled and assemble it in space they could probably be more efficient.

[-] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Well... I'm afraid I'm not sure if they'll be effective for the ISS. The ISS sits in low orbit (a relatively high part of Leo, but none the less), so it hits some extremely thin atmosphere, which has a noticeable drag over time. For that reason the ISS has to boost its orbit a little every few months. My fear is that a solar sail large enough to have an effect on the ISS is probably large enough to add a whole lot of atmospheric drag, even from just the trace particles it encounters.

[-] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

Oh right, yeah. Hopefully we'll see a higher orbit space station that can do manufacturing like this.

[-] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Yeah, we may well end up seeing a lot more use of solar light pressure to orient spacecraft over the coming years, especially deep space probes and higher orbit satellites. Telecom satellites need a lot of power for their transmitters, so they generally have quite large solar arrays, I wouldn't be surprised to see some of those using this method for station keeping. (Though these days they're already using very efficient ion thrusters for station keeping, so they may not really need to use this method)

But while solar sail propulsion takes a lot of very specific design requirements, using solar pressure just for maintaining orientation doesn't actually require any fancy hardware (if you already have solar panels), it's all an entirely software solution. Which means it's always a viable backup plan when hardware failures occur.

[-] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

Yeah exploring for asteroid mining and the asteroid belt being 2-3 AU from the sun, you have 4 to 9 times less solar pressure. But you could still accelerate closer to the sun and then swing out. I imagine tiny cube sats with cheap solar sails could do much of the work there. Anyway, exciting times!

[-] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Well that's a really interesting application though... 9 times less thrust may not actually be a very big deal. A solar sail probe would likely be a lot lighter than a fueled equivalent, so that means you have the payload mass to send more probes on the same launch. And asteroids don't have meaningful amounts of gravity, so you can take as long as you want to get from one to another (you don't need much thrust to overcome their gravity well). So yeah, I think more than likely you could make up for a lack of speed with sheer quantity.

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