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[-] princessnorah 9 points 2 months ago

Cool, we caught a live "not all men" over here!!

[-] nifty@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

Not exactly, if you want me to blunt I am saying that if everywhere you go there are assholes, then the asshole is probably you. You being a woman is inconsequential

[-] princessnorah 4 points 2 months ago

Friend, it's not that this is a fact, it's that you brought it into the conversation. It's also genuinely not all men either, the problem is that every time a woman speaks up there's a chorus of men ready to respond "Not All Men" instead of actually listening.

[-] Mustard 2 points 2 months ago

This criticism only really works when it's a woman speaking of their personal experience with men, not when it's someone making a generalisation about all men.

Nothing was brought into the conversation, it was an all men/ not all men thing from the beginning.

[-] nifty@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I am listening, I think it’s a case by case basis and generalizations just alienate people instead of making them empathetic or sympathetic.

I also know that people tend to downplay women’s concerns as part of misogynistic histories, so I am mindful of that too. I do my part to speak up against these kinds of patterns when I see them

Edit I am just giving my pov, I wish there was a way to know which approach is more helpful.

Edit 2 but yeah, I tend to generalize too, so I get the need to do it when something annoys you enough