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submitted 2 months ago by pnutzh4x0r@lemmy.ndlug.org to c/linux@lemmy.ml

Wedson Almeida Filho is a Microsoft engineer who has been prolific in his contributions to the Rust for the Linux kernel code over the past several years. Wedson has worked on many Rust Linux kernel features and even did a experimental EXT2 file-system driver port to Rust. But he's had enough and is now stepping away from the Rust for Linux efforts.

From Wedon's post on the kernel mailing list:

I am retiring from the project. After almost 4 years, I find myself lacking the energy and enthusiasm I once had to respond to some of the nontechnical nonsense, so it's best to leave it up to those who still have it in them.

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I truly believe the future of kernels is with memory-safe languages. I am no visionary but if Linux doesn't internalize this, I'm afraid some other kernel will do to it what it did to Unix.

Lastly, I'll leave a small, 3min 30s, sample for context here: https://youtu.be/WiPp9YEBV0Q?t=1529 -- and to reiterate, no one is trying force anyone else to learn Rust nor prevent refactorings of C code."

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[-] yournamehere@lemm.ee 20 points 2 months ago

RUST ppl feel like ARCH ppl. yes it might be better than some other setup yadda yadda, but they are so enervating.i'd rather switch back to windows11 than read another post/blog on how som crustians replaced this or that c library. just shut up already.

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

The sad thing is, there are other languages better at replacing C/C++ due to closer resemblance, except they're rarely used due to lack of trendy technology that is being hyped in Rust. D lost a lot of ground due to its maintainers didn't make it an "immutable by default" language at the time when functional programming paradigm was the next big thing in programming (which D can still do, as long as you're not too fussy about using const everywhere).

[-] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 months ago

It was never about replacing C with a new language for the sake of novelty, it was about solving the large majority of security vulnerabilities that are inherent in memory-unsafe languages.

If Rust were to implode tomorrow, some other memory-safe language would come along and become equally annoying to developers who think they're the first and only person to suggest just checking the code really hard for memory issues before merge.

[-] WarmApplePieShrek@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

if you were right they'd replace it with Java.

[-] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

Rust's memory safety is at compile-time. Java relies on a virtual machine and garbage collector. Nothing wrong with that approach but there's a reason Rust is used in kernels and Java is used in userspace apps.

[-] WarmApplePieShrek@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

Java was invented 20 years sooner.

[-] wewbull@feddit.uk 5 points 2 months ago

Arch people tell you "I use arch BTW"

Rust people make PRs rewriting your code in rust.

Rust people are worse.

this post was submitted on 29 Aug 2024
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