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[-] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 3 points 11 months ago

The overton window shifted more left than right, unless said centrist lives in Turkey or Russia

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 11 months ago

What do you mean by that? Where is the Overton Window sliding to the left?

[-] Ummdustry@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/communism-millennials-capitalism-socialism-bernie-sanders-cold-war-yougov-a9188116.html

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This is misleading. Most people do not actually know what Socialism or Communism are in the US (including people on Lemmy.world and other more liberalized instances) that think they know. What we are seeing is increasing polarization, fascism and Socialism are rising as a response to decaying Imperialism in the American Empire, as a consequence of decaying Capitalism.

Party-wise, the Democrats are running on the GOP platform of 4 years ago, while the GOP is running on overt fascism. American politics is more right-wing than ever before.

[-] Ummdustry@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

Under the asumption I am most people, can you give me the definition of socialism you prefer?

[-] Sagittarii@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

In addition to Cowbee's comment, the Prolewiki article on Socialism expands on it.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Socialism is, put at the most simple statement, Worker Ownership of the Means of Production. It is also, more abstractly put, the Dictatorship of the Proletariat in a transitional status towards Communism.

People often confuse Capitalist governments doing stuff for Socialism, and Socialist governments retaining Capitalist elements as the entire system being Capitalist. It requires class analysis of who is in power.

Do you have a different idea, or is this in line with what you currently understand?

[-] supertrucker@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago

It ends the same way. An authoritarian dictatorship of a small group that seizes total political power. It always ends this way, and no amount of people power will change that

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago

Why? What are you talking about?

[-] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 1 points 11 months ago

Anywhere that companies will cater to the left, why would they throw away profit otherwise? You're the majority now and they'll market accordingly

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago

What do you think "left" means? Communists and Socialists are not the majority, nor are they being pandered to. Right-wingers like Liberals make up the majority.