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[-] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 138 points 2 months ago

I would expect nothing less from this Russian agent.

[-] Vespair@lemm.ee 27 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Hey now that's not fair; Tulsi will sell herself to anyone willing to pay, not just exclusively Russia!

[-] HomerianSymphony@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

You know, when you accuse every anti-war candidate of being a Russian agent, you’re just making Russia look better than the US.

Why do the Democrats love war so much? Why can’t Democrats be anti-war?

Edit: Reminder that Russia supports Palestinian statehood and has called for the partition of Jerusalem along pre-1967 borders. Has a Democrat ever said that?

[-] cupcakezealot 62 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

tulsi isn't even CLOSE to being anti war.....

Reminder that Russia supports Palestinian statehood and has called for the partition of Jerusalem along pre-1967 borders

shocker; russia likes something that divides a country so they can create a wedge /s

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[-] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 51 points 2 months ago

You know, when you accuse every anti-war candidate of being a Russian agent, you’re just making Russia look better than the US.

It's not about a supposed "anti-war" stance at all, and you trying to shift the conversation to that just makes you look like you don't want discussions about the fact Russia has been working to destabilize US politics for decades.

You *do *realize Russian interference in US politics has been happening since way before any of this right? Way before even their invasion of Georgia 16 years ago. This isn't new, and it isn't about Ukraine or Israel. It's about recognizing that Russia has been spreading misinformation in the US through things like social media and even our own politicians for decades now. The US military and intelligence communities have been warning about it for just as long, it isn't new. The fact you want to make it seem like this is somehow new means you either haven't been paying any attention, or that you support Russian interests.

Given your attempt to shift the conversation away from Russian interference, I'd say the second is correct.

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[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 46 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Reminder that Russia supports

invading its neighbors, so it's obviously very anti-war 🙄

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 35 points 2 months ago

The same Russia that's currently trying to invade Ukraine?

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[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 35 points 2 months ago

Gabbard is literally a Russian agent, though. It's not hyperbole.

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[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 25 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Tulsi Gabbard isn't anti-war. She explicitly called herself a hawk on the War on Terror. She's a right-wing opportunist, and like other right wing opportunists (Tucker Carlson, for instance) she might occasionally have a broken clock moment where she criticizes a war, but it's only because she wants to pivot to starting other wars elsewhere.

Tulsi is also a Zionist. She voted for a ban on BDS and called the protests antisemitic. In fact, she said that they were "puppets" of a "radical islamist organization" and, “I’m concerned about it because leaders in the West are not combating it. … Unfortunately, President Biden seems to be afraid to be called an Islamophobe.” This is similar to her criticisms of Obama for being insufficiently hawkish (in her view) on the War on Terror.

Don't fall for right-wing grifters trying to take advantage of anti-war sentiment to push their agenda.

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[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

Haha this guy... Acting like Putin cares when he happily helped Assad bomb his own people all the while invading a Sovereign nation for imperial ambitions hahahah

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[-] rsuri@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

She's not anti-war if she's supporting Russia's invasion of Ukraine. She's anti-fighting back.

[-] Xanis@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

Don't bother with this one, folks. I recognize the name and that should tell you enough.

Move along now.

Move along.

[-] NIB@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Lets see what George Orwell wrote about that. Try to read all of it, especially the last paragraph. It isnt about being against pacifism, it's about how pacifism can be used by authoritarian regimes on liberal countries and how that societal asymmetry defines the end result.

Pacifism. Pacifism is objectively pro-Fascist. This is elementary common sense. If you hamper the war effort of one side you automatically help that of the other. Nor is there any real way of remaining outside such a war as the present one. In practice, ‘he that is not with me is against me’.

The idea that you can somehow remain aloof from and superior to the struggle, while living on food which British sailors have to risk their lives to bring you, is a bourgeois illusion bred of money and security.

Mr Savage remarks that ‘according to this type of reasoning, a German or Japanese pacifist would be “objectively pro-British”.’ But of course he would be! That is why pacifist activities are not permitted in those countries (in both of them the penalty is, or can be, beheading) while both the Germans and the Japanese do all they can to encourage the spread of pacifism in British and American territories. The Germans even run a spurious ‘freedom’ station which serves out pacifist propaganda indistinguishable from that of the P.P.U. They would stimulate pacifism in Russia as well if they could, but in that case they have tougher babies to deal with.

In so far as it takes effect at all, pacifist propaganda can only be effective against those countries where a certain amount of freedom of speech is still permitted; in other words it is helpful to totalitarianism.

Not all wars are good. I was against the Iraq and Afghanistan invasions. But this war is one of the few occasions where american interests mostly align with the moral thing, helping an invaded country defend against an imperial invader. This is one of the least controversial and relatively clean cut wars in history.

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[-] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 9 points 2 months ago

This dude sees rape and yells "stop resisting".

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