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I envision a wonderful future with this happening.
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How does the jurisdiction even work there? A UK citizen and a SA/Canada/US citizen get prosecuted for cyberbullying of an Algerian citizen? Don't get me wrong, they deserve it, but this feels like a "careful what you wish for" type of thing.
It's almost like these borders we have are stupid and arbitrary and instead we should have a global system of justice to handle these cross border crimes.
But hey. Nationalism.
You're advocating people be tried for speech crimes by an international body that they didn't vote for and can't fire through an electoral process. Seems like a great idea that totally won't backfire.
Says who? I made a broad statement and you're assuming specifics to be mad about.
All around the world, crime is defined very differently. What would a global system of justice look like?
Would you say the system as it exists now is your Utopia? Then why does mine have to have no flaws? Your question is loaded, it's looking to poke specific holes into the broad idea that humanity should cooperate further. It's pedantic.
I never said yours has to have no flaws. I literally just asked you what you thought lmao
Your asking for specifics from a laymen. That's argumentive bait. My "vision for global justice" is irrelevant to the broad idea that we should have one as I am not talking specifics.
Even arguably the two most similar cultures in the world, the United States and Canada, have enough disagreements on how government should work that there wouldn't be massive support on either side for them to merge.
Not to mention 1A has worked against Rowling in the past (she threatens libel lawsuits that are valid in the UK, but US doesn't extradite for stuff that would be considered free speech there.)
Ya know what, your totally right. All of human history up to this point was just building to the natural borders and separations we have right at this moment and never should we aspire to come together beyond them. Everyone is exactly in their place as God intended. Wishing for more human cooperation is not only stupid but somehow immoral, despite the fact that centralizing larger populations has been the progress of humans for all of human history, it should stop right at this moment because the people living through it just can't imagine their flag being different. They like the flag too much.
Ever heard of the lèse-majesté laws in Thailand? Now imagine a dictator able to use that to silence critics globally that are "cyberbullying" them. We already see it with countries filing bogus Interpol requests to harass dissident diaspora members. And sure you could have an independent body, but then that is subject to politics and capture.
"It's like these borders we have are stupid and arbitary"
You get that borders and people governing a piece of land is stupid...but you still don't GET IT.
Thank you
Yes, let's imagine the worst possible implementation of this broad idea. Done. Let's not do it that way then. Problem averted, thank you for submitting your complaint to the planning committee of the new world order justice system aka me apparently.
Yes, let's imagine how humans will try to exploit a system like this. Concentrate power like that and people will absolutely try to abuse it. Someone has to set and enforce the rules, and that means one single global point of failure.
Welcome to the interconnected world we live in. Better than pretending we are separate.
INTERPOL has existed for over 100 years.
I do love international cooperation. What's wrong with even more cooperation?
I thought the conspiracy videos I watched about a new world order were lying when they said there are people out there that actually want this.
Lol self report.