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What's the most petty/pointless/pedantic hill you're willing to die on?
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but g followed by i or e very regularly makes a soft g in English (and always makes a soft g in Italian, which is irrelevant I guess but I speak both). you may as well purposely mispronounce giraffe, gelatin, germ, Giorgio, giant, gentle, etc while you're at it since it they don't start with a j.
by english rules it very often is a soft g, but could be hard as well, but the creator has clarified multiple times it is meant to be soft, so why are people fighting it?
gift
pan / pang
hat / hate
clam / claim
one letter can and often does completely change pronunciation. i'd give you a good ol' fashion makin fun of, but i actually think you could've gotten there if you would've thought about for a few more seconds. you seem pretty smart. shame you clicked reply too soon.
You're on the wrong side of history, get over it.
in terms of how people refer to it these days, you may be correct that slightly more are using the hard g. what drives me nuts about the argument though is that the 'hard g' crowd does not have a good argument for it. the "g stands for graphics so it should be a hard g" crowd are immediately proven wrong that that's not how any acronyms work. the "gift" crowd are immediately proven wrong as i just did above.
just be honest with yourselves. the only argument you have is "we just like it better". if you were honest then i wouldn't be able to argue against it.
Gift is by far the most commonly used word that is comparable, and it is a very close comparison, it makes sense people would base it off that. I'm a soft g person myself, but the one letter change doesn't hold up very well here. All your examples have an additional letter specifically to change how another letter is pronounced using well established rules. That is not the case here at all.
Pan/pang- the g has a well established rule to change the pronunciation of the a? No it doesn't lol. Words are not comparable like that in english, this is another terrible argument.
Examples: lead and lead, read and read, tear and tear, bass and bass, wind and wind. Spelled the exact same way and different pronunciations. Trying to prove how gif is pronounced based on the word gift just proves you haven't thought about this for more than 10 seconds.
There is no grammatical argument for hard g. There is also no grammatical argument for soft g. Once again, g followed by i or e can be either in English. The only thing that should sway this is what the creator intended and straight up told everybody many times.
The only real solution is to only refer to the format in its full name.
I don't pronounce those A sounds any differently, I didn't realize that was your point. Maybe there's a bit of a glide in pan, but both have æ sounds.