Warning: we advise lemmy.world administrators to wait to update to 0.19.5 due to an incompatibility with the latest Mastodon releases

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As it emerged in this thread, messages from the latest versions of mastodon are not interpreted correctly by the latest Lemmy releases

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[-] yessikg 12 points 2 months ago

Mastodon doing changes that are incompatible with the Threadiverse? Must be a day that ends in Y

[-] notizie@poliverso.org 6 points 2 months ago

@yessikg I understand that this bug might seem like a deliberately hostile action against the threadverse, but the reality is that ActivityPub is objectively a shithole 🤣 and with every good step forward, there is the risk of stepping on a shit!

These problems could simply arise from the fact that Mastodon is starting to really work on the management of Activitypub groups. It is therefore appropriate to report any incompatibilities to the Mastodon staff, so that they can correct their roadmap

[-] ShittyKopper 5 points 2 months ago

from what i can tell (from the work in progress pull request) mastodons group implementation explicitly does not aim for compatibility with lemmy

other than that, i agree on activitypub being crap in terms of making interoperability easy

[-] notizie@poliverso.org 5 points 2 months ago

@ShittyKopper rightly mastodon cannot and should not aim for full compatibility with Lemmy and Piefed.

In fact, Lemmy has some unique features (such as the intentionally limited management of crossposting) that cannot be managed.

However, it would be appropriate and above all ethical, for Mastodon groups to be compatible with Friendica groups, Gup groups and Mbin magazines.

This would allow mastodon users to continue using the Activity pub groups of other platforms, including Lemmy.

I remember in fact that even WordPress (which at the moment, represents the most important novelty of the Fediverse) is perfectly able to publish on the Lemmy communities and on the Friendica groups!

[-] ShittyKopper 4 points 2 months ago

iirc mastodon was implementing smithereen's flavor of groups. no idea if they ended up changing course or anything (not following masto dev tok closely) but the way they work is fundamentally different from how Lemmy and compatible groups work

[-] Fitik@fedia.io 2 points 2 months ago

it's still a pull request on GitHub, however I think Lemmy 1.0 will be released sooner than it will be merged

[-] JupiterRowland@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

These problems could simply arise from the fact that Mastodon is starting to really work on the management of Activitypub groups.

And re-invent the wheel once more, preferably in a proprietary way that's as incompatible with the rest of the Fediverse as possible but sold to the Mastodon users as the Fediverse gold standard.

It is therefore appropriate to report any incompatibilities to the Mastodon staff, so that they can claim the other side is broken unless the other side has rock-solid proof that it's actually Mastodon that's doing it wrong.

FTFY