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Honest question, are there any reasons why a private citizen performing this sort of thing would be legally less of a problem than the state?
From a philosphical perspective I'm all for catching mail thieves. But I would get a little twitchy hearing that the police are mailing tracking devices. And I would be more or less ok with a private citizen helping to "catch the bad guy" with their security camera, but I do not want police surveillance cameras on my street, thank you very much.
We had a possible breakin on my street, and police noticed my doorbell camera. They politely asked if I could check whether it picked something up, and I showed him a picture possibility (complainants said oh yeah that was us).
I was ok with it because it was a request, the cam only shows public areas, and it never left my control. I don’t know what would have happened if it went anywhere, but I could have said no, and I could have said nothing was picked up. This was all reasonable cooperation with no overreach or privacy invasion
For what it's worth, Ring and Nest both got some bad press, because it was discovered that police were issuing warrants for footage directly from the companies. Many of the people never even knew their footage had been pulled and used by police. If you're self-hosting a video server, then cool. But if you're using one of the big companies, they didn't even need to ask you first. And even if you're self-hosting, they could technically compel you to turn over the footage if they can convince a judge it will help their case.
Yeah, I did give that some thought but decided I was ok with it since it can only see public areas.
I do have a cam inside, facing by the door, for another chance to see if someone is coming in, and do NOT use cloud storage for that. I only have a USB stick for that until I do set up a video server