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[-] MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago

I have no clue how Lemmy works. I made an account and just assumed that was that.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago

Each 'instance' has slightly different rules that apply. Mostly it doesn't affect users, as you can interact with other instances just fine.

Lemmy.ml censors a number of common curses and is run by Uyghur genocide deniers.

[-] MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 months ago

Well that's unfortunate. What are more ideal instances of Lemmy? Thanks for the explanation, by the way.

[-] Klaymore@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 months ago

I'm on sh.itjust.works and haven't heard of any issues with it, it's been working pretty well.

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago

You know anyone can just go to Xinjiang, there's no travel restrictions. Every Muslim country, including some of America's puppets sent delegations which concluded that there was no genocide.

A decade ago, they were telling us that millions of Uyghurs were being sent to death camps or forced sterilized or w/e. Today we've not seen any massive demographic change. To me that says I was lied to by western media the same way I was lied to about literally every other enemy of the US. Is there any kind of evidence or just time period passing that would make you reevaluate whether you've been lied to?

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago
[-] davel@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago

Is this a joke? What country is providing materiel and political support for an actual genocide as we speak?

It’s strange how almost no predominantly-Muslim country has signed up for these supposed Uyghur human rights violations. It’s largely the imperial core countries that have. Is it because Muslims don’t value human life, or is it because it’s largely bullshit?
https://twitter.com/un_hrc/status/1578003299827171330

#HRC51 | Draft resolution A/HRC/51/L.6 on holding a debate on the situation of human rights in the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region of #China, was REJECTED.

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Reporter: [REDACTED]
Reason: Genocide denialism

Reporter: [REDACTED]
Reason: Genocide denial

We do indeed deny this US psyop bullshit. The US tried to foment division in China by funding and organizing terrorist cells in Xinjiang, and once those efforts failed, it concocted and promoted a genocide narrative. Antony Blinken is still pushing this slop.

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We see here for example the evolution of public opinion in regards to China. In 2019, the ‘Uyghur genocide’ was broken by the media (Buzzfeed, of all outlets). In this story, we saw the machine I described up until now move in real time. Suddenly, newspapers, TV, websites were all flooded with stories about the ‘genocide’, all day, every day. People whom we’d never heard of before were brought in as experts — Adrian Zenz, to name just one; a man who does not even speak a word of Chinese.

Organizations were suddenly becoming very active and important. The World Uyghur Congress, a very serious-sounding NGO, is actually an NED Front operating out of Germany […]. From their official website, they declare themselves to be the sole legitimate representative of all Uyghurs — presumably not having asked Uyghurs in Xinjiang what they thought about that.

The WUC also has ties to the Grey Wolves, a fascist paramilitary group in Turkey, through the father of their founder, Isa Yusuf Alptekin.

Documents came out from NGOs to further legitimize the media reporting. This is how a report from the very professional-sounding China Human Rights Defenders (CHRD) came to exist. They claimed ‘up to 1.3 million’ Uyghurs were imprisoned in camps. What they didn’t say was how they got this number: they interviewed a total of 10 people from rural Xinjiang and asked them to estimate how many people might have been taken away. They then extrapolated the guesstimates they got and arrived at the 1.3 million figure.

Sanctions were enacted against China — Xinjiang cotton for example had trouble finding buyers after Western companies were pressured into boycotting it. Instead of helping fight against the purported genocide, this act actually made life more difficult for the people of Xinjiang who depend on this trade for their livelihood (as we all do depend on our skills to make a livelihood).

Any attempt China made to defend itself was met with more suspicion. They invited a UN delegation which was blocked by the US. The delegation eventually made it there, but three years later. The Arab League also visited Xinjiang and actually commended China on their policies — aimed at reducing terrorism through education and social integration, not through bombing like we tend to do in the West.

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago

The population control nonsense is especially silly when even NATOpedia says otherwise. As part of China’s affirmative action policies, the Uyghurs and other ethic minorities were excepted from the One-Child policy, and in Xinjiang they have grown in numbers relative to Hans as a result, and this happened similarly with other ethnic minorities.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 4 points 3 months ago

I believe the ML there stands for Marxist Leninist (one of the flavors of communism)

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