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  • Ukrainian's shock offensive on Russia's Kursk region came as a surprise even to Ukraine's soldiers.
  • "We joked that it wasn't April 1st," a Ukrainian soldier told The Economist.
  • The country's troops did suspect that an invasion was imminent after they were issued new equipment.
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[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 33 points 11 months ago

I never claimed that defending yourself was the same as commanding an army. In fact my whole point was that it's not. You haven't addressed the core criticism of your post which is that a group of individuals can in no way be as effective as an army.

Yes Ukrainians have been defending themselves with home made drones...and jets, and artillery, and air defence missiles, and ... an army. That's why there is still a Ukraine.

"People will always find a way" is a nice sentiment but I wouldn't bet my life or the lives of my family and countrymen on it.

[-] index@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

group of individuals can in no way be as effective as an army.

They don't have to, their goal is to defend themself not to be the tool of same politician and invade other countries.

“People will always find a way” is a nice sentiment

That's what they have been doing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partisan_(military)

[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 23 points 11 months ago

Yes, they do have to because an army is what they're up against. I feel like we're living in different dimensions here or something. How do you expect a group of individuals to shoot down jets and incoming rockets, or form supply lines, or strategise at the level required to mount an effective defence, or maintain the necessary international relationships to ensure bullets keep getting delivered? That's barely even scratching the surface.

[-] index@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago
[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 8 points 11 months ago

Yes, those things exist. And therefore?

[-] index@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

that's an answer to your previous question, i suggest you to open these link and read them.

[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago

Alright, mate. As fun as it's been I guess we're done here then. Suffice to say we are all glad you're not in charge of the defence of Ukraine

[-] Lightor@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Ah the old, I can't defend my stance so I'll link a lot stuff and say "do your own research.". Weak attempt to distance yourself. If you actually understood and were able to defend your point you would. You didn't because you can't lol.

Let's just link the concept of guerrilla warfare like it means anything. It's failed multiple times throughout history but just the concept of it existing process my point! What a brain dead take.

[-] Lightor@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

They don't have to, their goal is to defend themself not to be the tool of same politician and invade other countries.

Ahh ok. So you know nothing about military warfare at all. Scattered resistance against an army is nothing but cleanup. The defense needs to be organized to be effective. How are you not embarrassed saying this BS?

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