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submitted 7 months ago by Silverseren@fedia.io to c/politics@lemmy.world

He may not be in office, but Donald Trump has been speaking with the powers that be about Israel’s war on Gaza—but it’s not in an effort to end the genocide.

Instead, Trump has allegedly been talking with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to avert a cease-fire deal, fearing that doing so could help Vice President Kamala Harris win in November, according to PBS.

“The reporting is that former President Trump is on the phone with the Prime Minister of Israel, urging him not to cut a deal right now, because it’s believed that would help the Harris campaign,” said PBS’s Judy Woodruff Monday night. “So, I don’t know where—who knows whether that will come about or not, but I have to think that the Harris campaign would like for President Biden to do what presidents do, and that’s to work on that one.”

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[-] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 18 points 7 months ago

K let me try and put this as simply as I can, so that you fucking acorns can understand:

Joe Biden is working towards a cease-fire. That is a fact.

Donald Trump is actively discouraging Netanyahu from agreeing to a cease-fire. That is a fact. No bridges there.

You people are condemning Joe Biden, the guy now actively working towards a cease-fire.

You people are not condemning Donald Trump, the guy actively interfering with a cease-fire.

To reiterate, Donald Trump is actively, publicly, and aggressively supporting genocide, and Joe Biden is trying to get a cease-fire enacted, yet you Genocide Joe sycophants can't see past your own biases to realize that.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

Joe Biden is working towards a cease-fire. That is a fact.

He just sent them $20B in new arms exports.

FFS, Americans are the most propagandized people on earth. You'll believe absolutely anything, except the truth.

[-] ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

And Trump is interfering with a ceasefire. You don't give two shits about Palestinians or genocide.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

And Trump is interfering with a ceasefire.

Netanyahu has not demonstrated any interest in a ceasefire. Blaming this on Trump deflects the strong Israeli support for further genocide of the Gaza people.

[-] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 10 points 7 months ago

Trump is on Netanyahu's side regarding a cease-fire. If you have a problem with Netanyahu not entertaining a cease fire, you should have a problem with Trump trying to scuttle it.

That is, if your problem is actually with the genocide, and not just a weird personal vendetta against Joe Biden.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

That is, if your problem is actually with the genocide, and not just a weird personal vendetta against Joe Biden.

Again, do you realize who is currently holding office?

[-] ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

This you?

Netanyahu has not demonstrated any interest in a ceasefire.

So, the person actually running the country that's committing the genocide you're so against has less culpability than an ally that's NOT committing genocide? Did i follow those mental gymnastics correctly?

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Netanyahu > Biden > every other nationally elected leader on good terms with Israel > Howard Kor and Elliot Brandt > Jamie Dimon > a long list of senators and governors > Lachlan Murdoch > Ben Shapiro > Donald Trump

[-] ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Is "underpantsweeevil" some euphemism for "shit take" that I've never heard before?

ETA: explain how Shapiro, who ISN'T ACTIVELY INTERFERING WITH A CEASEFIRE DEAL is higher on your list than Trump?

[-] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 months ago

You when Joe Biden pushes towards a cease fire: 😠🤬😡😠🤬

You when Donald Trump actively interferes with cease fire efforts: 🙈🙉🙊🤡😇

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

You when Joe Biden pushes towards a cease fire

He just sent Israel another $20B in military equipment

[-] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago

Now you just sound like a 🤖 stuck in a loop 🤔

https://sh.itjust.works/comment/13438721

[-] nomous@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

You already said that several comments ago and were rebuffed.

$20m is change my dude, that's like 1/2 a jet.

Is this the line you guys will try to push now that Joe has dropped off the ticket? It's pretty weak.

[-] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 7 points 7 months ago

A guy pushing for a cease fire.

You know who's the subject of the article in the OP? Donald Trump, the guy actively trying to prevent a cease fire.

[-] ZMoney@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

If you live in a state in which your vote will not matter anyway, you are better off voting for a candidate who actually wants a ceasefire. Jill Stein will secure more funding for the Green party if she breaches the 5% threshold. This bickering over which corporate oligarch party is less genocidal will get us nowhere.

[-] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 months ago
  1. I live in a state where I can't throw my vote away

  2. We're talking about Donald Trump illegally interfering with cease fire efforts here, please let's try and keep things on topic

[-] knightly@pawb.social 2 points 7 months ago

What does Donald Trump have to do with us using what leverage we have to push the Democrats to stop supporting Genocide?

[-] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

IDK, maybe by condemning Donald Trump for being unequivocally worse for the genocide could sway Trump voters to vote for someone else? You know, like the exact thing you were trying to get people to do by condemning Biden?

If you cared about stopping genocide, you'd be unequivocally against the candidate that wants to accelerate it.

[-] knightly@pawb.social 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Of course, the only thing that could get me to vote for Trump would be if he somehow managed to convince everyone that his administration would stop assisting Israel in the commission of genocide.

Sadly, the same applies to the Democrats. They are taking a big risk with their bet that they can win the election without the enthusiastic support of anti-genocide voters, but it's their election campaign and they're entitled to conduct it as they wish. Any success or failure at the ballot box is on them, and these attempts to project responsibility onto the voters are entirely transparent.

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 7 points 7 months ago

Again, do you realize who isn't currently holding office, has no responsibility or need to be involved in the situation, and is inserting themselves into the situation in an attempted to make sure the genocide continues?
And this person actively trying to make sure the genocide continues wants to hold office.

[-] ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

Excuses excuses. Brotherhood of the traveling goalposts. Your bias is showing.

[-] vxx@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

For jets that will not be delivered before 2029.

[-] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 11 points 7 months ago

The vast bulk of that deal is a contract for 50 F-15s, which are estimated to be delivered in 2029. He did not "just send them $20B in new arms exports".

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