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[-] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 46 points 4 months ago

Why is this bad in a nutshell.

A) The only way to control access to this feature is to lock down and phone home. If it doesn't phone home then when someone figures out a way around your present security its possible for someone to sell said features forever. Such DRM could hurt repeatability by accident or more likely on purpose.

B) There is no reason to fail open so even if BMW is still chugging when they stop taking your cars phone calls and retires those servers you get no more feature.

C) The amount spent over the lifespan of a car wherein people opt to take care of their valuable asset absolutely dwarfs the cost able to be extracted up front

D) This functionality opens the door to a hacker not just turning off your features but turning off your car. This includes state sponsored attackers and people who are just generally pissed off at the geopolitical actions of your country of origin. If you are in the US that is a lot of fucking people.

E) Product segmentation on average increases the amount you can extract per user. Allowing segmentation by features turn on or off in software by the month it allows far greater segmentation with no reasonable expectation that the baseline will be lower. This means the lowest end user of a model pays the same for even less. The median user pays somewhat more and the max user pays a LOT more.

F) This means wholly paid for used cars now come with a car payment to the manufacturer.

Now there are half a hundred people on the boards of these companies and 338M of us in the US. 449M in the EU. There is no reason to allow this misfeature to continue to be a thing in our markets. If automakers don't like those restrictions any one of them can opt to most of the most valuable markets in the world and find their fortunes exclusively in China while their competitors eat their former marketshare.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

Forgot one that was mentioned up-thread, which was that even if you don't pay for the fancy suspension you will still have to pay for fancy suspension parts if they break.

[-] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Fantastic point

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

C and e don’t sound like bad things

At least not bad enough for the company not to do it

[-] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

All of it is a reason for people to vote not to allow it. This can be accomplished federally or via initiatives in states. If a handful states comprising 30-50% of the pop wont allow it then it will be dead.

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago

Seems like forcing liability would be more successful

[-] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

More successful or more beneficial?

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago

Forcing the company to be liable for the data they collect would be more likely to stop them from doing it than trying to outlaw them collecting it

[-] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

No it wouldn't because poor people can trivially be kept out of court all kinds of ways from binding arbitration to half assed enforcement. As a rule if you want someone to NOT do something you have to tell them they can't do it!

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago

No it wouldn’t because elected officials don’t represent poor people

But we’re talking about buying new BMWs anyway. Your logic was just too stupid to not laugh at

[-] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

The problem is there is no reason to suspect that a lucrative strategy doesn't spread to other manufacturers and indeed segments.

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago

And it will be long established before it effects the poor

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