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I read his words. It was his words that made me doubt. He and his partner were the victims here, for sure. But that doesn't mean that they are being honest about the preamble to the altercation. But if not fully believing a person about every single detail of their story, if not taking every single assumption that they made as gospel makes me homophobe because they happen to be gay, sure. Whatever.
YOU, again, are the only one implying this, without evidence. And you're clearly doing it to excuse the bigotry and violence they faced.
I didn't say I had evidence. I said I got a feeling from the way he phrased his story. I also said I might be wrong.
yet, oddly, you keep asserting - without evidence - that the victims are liars and the bigotry and violence they received was justified.
then why do you keep trying to justify it?
KryptonianCodeMonkey's top post:
They modify a 'never' with a comma and a 'but'. So, not 'never', clearly.
It's odd that they're working so hard to pretend they're not saying what they're actually, visibly, verifiably saying.
Thanks to everyone who questioned this so capably.
"From the way you phrase your posts, I guess you might have disturbing images on your hard drive. I might be wrong."
Would you take offence if I said that? If yes, then think about what you're doing.
You also say that this does not warrant violence. So why even make that point?
If one of my female friends is sexually harassed, and I say, "There's no excuse for that. It doesn't matter how you were dressed. However, I bet you were dressed provocatively," am I being a despicable piece of shit?
I accept I'm 'weird', because I'm heavily autistic. But at least I don't come across like someone who says "Of course you're not at fault, BUT..."
Edit: checking your post history, you've never said anything interesting. Okay, bye.
If you female friend wore a shirt so low cut and loose that she was flashing her tits to everyone and was asked to leave the restaurant because of it, so she started arguing and then the employee attacked her... no, her clothing did not excuse the attack. It does excuse her being asked to leave. It is pretty simple how both of those things can be true. It is pretty simple that the fact that she was attacked doesn't make the employee asking her to leave unjustified. And if she recounted the story and said "he had a problem with my shirt that might have been a little low cut", and failed to mention she was fully flashing people, she would be lying about the facts even if those facts, again, don't justify the violence that followed. I don't know why this is so complicated. Reality has nuance.
I said "If one of my female friends is sexually harassed," and you turned that into being 'asked to leave'.
Two gay people were assaulted, and you turned that into a discussion about them being asked to leave.
Pretty weird.
They weren't even initially asked to leave. Read his account. They were asked to stop the PDA, then the partner started to argue and then was escorted out. That is the in the victim's own account.
Wow, now you’re using offensive tropes about women to justify your endorsement of this homophobic attack?
Can you go no lower?
Really? Because I think it might be justifiable to ask a woman leave a restaurant if she is indecency exposed? Do you even know what an incel is? Pretty sure they would be on the opposite side of that argument.
I was shifting the other guy's hypothetical into a comparable situation. Jesus, automod flagged me for calling someone a weird o. How is this shit flying under the radar?
Edit: and finally the automod plays fair.
no, you were creating a straw man in order to justify the bigotry and violence the victims faced
We cannot take action on content that is not reported. I had to search through the context to find this one.
Fair enough. Sorry for the trouble.
This is the most pathetic question I've come across for some time, and I'm a teacher, and being asked pathetic questions is a daily occurrence for me.
No, because we're typing to each other.
The guy was reply bombing me with the same accusation about 8 time an hour ago. Every time I responded to his comment, he'd repeat the same thing. Again, context matters, dude.
And that leads to you saying things that get removed by mods because...?
Because apparently taking the lord's name in vain is a removable offense for the Lemmy automod huge eyeroll
you realize that anyone can check out the mod log and see what you posted and why it was removed, right?
You're right. I thought they removed the one where I just said "Christ". That's my bad. Even better, they removed the one were I called someone a wierd o. You're right, how edgy. Strike it from the record! Too combative! I've definitely not been called worse by you and your other dudes brigading my comments a dozen times already.
My others were removed for telling you to gfy, for using all caps out of frustration and saying ffs, and calling you a d**k. Oh the humanity.
don't blame others for your own bad behavior.
ah, so calling you out for using a lie to justify bigotry and violence is "brigading" now...
More lies to justify your behavior. You know everyone can see your comments.
You kept using a lie you made up in order to justify the attack, and I keep calling you out when you lie.
If you don’t like that, stop using lies to justify bad behavior.
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Lmao, don’t blame others for your own terrible behavior.