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[-] Silverstrings 39 points 2 years ago

China is state capitalist, as evidenced by the fact that the phone you bought was manufactured there via cheap labor.

[-] Neptium@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 years ago

You are completely ignorant in how the real world works.

Labour costs are artificially kept low in the global south due to imperialism. The US’ dollar hegemony helps them artificially depreciate Global South currencies, in which you, a Westerner benefits immensely from.

Low wages doesn’t signify anything about the mode of production. Truthfully, wage labour existed even prior to capitalism.

You don’t even know what you are talking about but you, in typical orientalist and racist fashion, thinks you know anything about a civilisation that has lasted 4000 years.

What is fact is that China has had the highest wage growth for the past few decades, which taking into account its 1.3billion population, means it has have helped uplift more people out of poverty than the entire population of the West.

Calling China “state capitalist” is an insult to all the people that were colonized by the Europeans, where ACTUAL capitalism destroyed, pillaged and genocided entire civilisations for the benefit of Capital, which is still happening btw.

[-] deltec@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

It seems like communists spend alot of time trying to convince people that north korea/ china / russia is not communist. Chinas ONLY political party is literally called the CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY. If none of these very obvious communist countries arent actually communist, what country is? And if there are none, then frankly your political ideology is moot since it has never succeeded.

[-] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Well I wouldn't exactly use the name of a political party as evidence for whether or not they actually follow that ideology... There are plenty of examples for the fact that the name is not the deciding factor but what they actually do. And, considering the definition of communism, it is kinda weird to consider China communist just because that's the name the leading party gave themselves.

I just think that "Authoritarian Regime" or similar isn't something a party would call itself.

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